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Re: Europe gas storage reserves – by country, updated daily

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To put this in relation, here is a comparison of gas storage capacities in Europe: https://erdgasspeicher.de/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/ines_ga... Here is table from Sunday which also shows the total gas stored in each country, along with the capacity ("Working volume"), annual consumption, and injection / withdrawal capacities: https://agsi.gie.eu/ Missing from the list is Switzerland, which does not have any gas st…

The UK has 35Mtpa LNG port capacity and spain has 44Mtpa which is more than the rest put together though (Germany has 0!), so it probably balances out in terms of screwedness.

The UK also produces about half of it natural gas.

Each country has differing reliance on natural gas too. The UK is particularly reliant, for example.

Only the Netherlands looks well prepared - 8.8Mtpa of LNG import capacity, 120TWh of storage and a relatively small population.

Somebody should make a model of country per country screwedness that takes all of this into account.

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#32
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It would be interesting to know the end game here. If the Ukrainian war ends, I assume that isn't the end of it. I assume the taps from Russia will turn back on, but it has shown itself to be an unreliable supply.

> I assume the taps from Russia will turn back on Why? The current trend is to work hard in order to reduce any form of business with Russia that would help them to rebuild the army and become a threat again.

I assume that turning the taps back on would be seen as a short-term thing in order to fill storages and avoid short-term economic/humanitarian domestic issues. There's surely no country left left in the EU that considers Russia to be a tolerable long-term trading partner, except maybe for Hungary.

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#33
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This is strange, everything I heard is that Germany is in trouble with the gas situation but here it seems they have the most stored gas? Is this correct in content and meaning?

Other variables come into play as well. A mild and windy (lots of wind power) would help keep energy cost lower. From what I have seen, currently energy cost are expected to triple however worst case scenario could be 10-15 times increase. The effects on society and economic would be enormous.

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By your metric, the most "socially backward" country that joined the EU was the United Kingdom, as its the only one that actually exited so far. EDIT: regarding your edit - yep, Ukraine is currently a very backwards and crappy country, basically no better than Russia. While Russia is propped up by infinite monies flowing from the ground, Ukraine doesn't have it, so it's much more dilapidated. It's a small miracle tha…

Last time I checked the UK didn’t have to face widespread homophobic attacks conducted by groups advocating discrimination and violence, widespread gender-based violence, ineffective investigation of violence against journalists, impunity of police and issues relating to bringing torturers to justice. Because that was the reality in Ukraine before the war.

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It's not virtue signaling to want to run as fast as possible from the supply of a known aggressor that won't stop trying to invade its neighbors. Germany got itself into this mess it was warned for decades not to. It's going to hurt to decouple, that's a fact.

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#38
post #11

To put this in relation, here is a comparison of gas storage capacities in Europe: https://erdgasspeicher.de/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/ines_ga... Here is table from Sunday which also shows the total gas stored in each country, along with the capacity ("Working volume"), annual consumption, and injection / withdrawal capacities: https://agsi.gie.eu/ Missing from the list is Switzerland, which does not have any gas st…

To make it even better it would be useful to have the stored amount per capita and also number of days the country can rely on stored amount. Although I understand the usage will heavily depend on the weather and how far the country will go in restricting the usage of gas reserves (for example, shutting down various production sectors).

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post #27
post #3

It would be interesting to know the end game here. If the Ukrainian war ends, I assume that isn't the end of it. I assume the taps from Russia will turn back on, but it has shown itself to be an unreliable supply.

A view from Germany: Up to Russian invasion this February: old oil furnaces were being avidly replaced with natural gas ones. Solar installations were starting to slack off. Lots of re-roofing and new exterior wall insulation. Since then: no slacking in the roofing and exterior wall insulation, but now everyone has a keen interest in heat pumps, and solar panels are being installed everywhere. Gonna be hard to convin…

I'm currently renovating a house. My government are offering subsidies if you disconnect your gas supply and go all-electric. We'll be doing that alongside full solar (possibly with battery) and heat-pumps for heating/cooling.

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It's not virtue signaling to want to run as fast as possible from the supply of a known aggressor that won't stop trying to invade its neighbors. Germany got itself into this mess it was warned for decades not to. It's going to hurt to decouple, that's a fact.

> run as fast as possible from the supply of a known aggressor that won't stop trying to invade its neighbors

This could literally describe China though.

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