I can't fault the brokers for doing what they do, but one MCU I tried to source the other week had a 40x markup from normal. Yes, 4000%.
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Re: Companies are hacking their way around the chip shortage
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe. But getting a raspberry pi is still next to imposible.
This prompted me to look on Ebay, where Pi 4 prices are mad (>£100!) but the previous generations seem to be more normal. Wonder if it's worth me digging up any 3s I have and selling them.
EDIT: sweet Jesus. Just checked the current state on Amazon and the 400s are listed at £117 for just the base unit, more than the £91 I paid for the full kit (the only in-stock option at the time) six months ago, the 4Gb 4 is £173 (next day prime) or £155 (up to two week delivery), and the 8Gb is down for a whopping £290! (next day, no cheaper slower options). The only Pi3 showing as in-stock ATM is £100. Maybe I should hunt out my spare 3 and make some drinking money from it!
I've not checked other sources.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
>some cloud service that ResMed then resells to your doctor. Why would they resell to the doctor, or why would the doctor be buying the info? Seems like the user should be the one charged for the data that could then be shared with their doctor. I just don't see the business sense for it being purchased by the docs unless the docs just turn around and upcharge the patient?
I've commented on this before on HN. I have sleep apnea and a ResMed CPAP. A very US-centric response: Insurance also seems to have access to this data in one way or another (not sure if direct with ResMed or via your doctor). If you don't hit your "compliance target" for treatment, insurance will cease paying 'their share' of the cost. So I found myself in a downward spiral of 0. Struggling to sleep with sleep apnea…
(apologies about derailing into subthread)
Re: Companies are hacking their way around the chip shortage
#34> one large industrial conglomerate had resorted to buying washing machines just to scavenge the chips inside them for its products Is this really more efficient than say, contacting the washing machine manufacturer and buying up the chips at a premium (i.e. above the washing machine cost). I usually applaud hacky solutions, but this just feels like a ton of unnecessary waste. I would prefer scrapping features (like…
It might be more (cost) efficient to buy washing machines. It's possible if the washing machine manufacturer knew of the real value of the chip to the buyer, they might charge extortionate pricing. It's also possible that the total value of selling a washing machine exceeds the purchase price (e.g. how much does the washing machine manufacturer get from the detergent maker for putting a packet of detergent in the box…
Re: Companies are hacking their way around the chip shortage
#35> one large industrial conglomerate had resorted to buying washing machines just to scavenge the chips inside them for its products Is this really more efficient than say, contacting the washing machine manufacturer and buying up the chips at a premium (i.e. above the washing machine cost). I usually applaud hacky solutions, but this just feels like a ton of unnecessary waste. I would prefer scrapping features (like…
> buying up the chips at a premium (i.e. above the washing machine cost). Industries often act illogically in cases like this. You see it with many types of goods ordered a long time in advance. If there is a sudden shortage, the people who have ordered their raw materials a long time in advance (who have effectively purchased a future for that commodity) think they made a good move and see it as a business advantage…
Isn't this the short-term quarter-to-quarter mindset that gets constantly roasted on HN? Isn't there value to your brand in being a dependable supplier to your customers? And isn't there business value in retaining your workforce, instead of having to lay them off, since you shut the factory down?
Re: Companies are hacking their way around the chip shortage
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've commented on this before on HN. I have sleep apnea and a ResMed CPAP. A very US-centric response: Insurance also seems to have access to this data in one way or another (not sure if direct with ResMed or via your doctor). If you don't hit your "compliance target" for treatment, insurance will cease paying 'their share' of the cost. So I found myself in a downward spiral of 0. Struggling to sleep with sleep apnea…
As someone who couldn't hit compliance either, any other sleep apnea solutions that have worked for you (or others?) (apologies about derailing into subthread)
this is the natural evolution of a conversation. i feel no apology should be necessary. taking a conversation to new related directions is often where that Aha! or Eureka! moment is found.
personally, i find people that get upset and feel an apology is warranted are people i find quite boring to have a conversation with
Re: Companies are hacking their way around the chip shortage
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe. But getting a raspberry pi is still next to imposible.
This prompted me to look on Ebay, where Pi 4 prices are mad (>£100!) but the previous generations seem to be more normal. Wonder if it's worth me digging up any 3s I have and selling them.
Re: Companies are hacking their way around the chip shortage
#38This article was May 2022. Apparently things are already beginning to change.
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#39Re: Companies are hacking their way around the chip shortage
#40This article is out of date. We have chip glut situation right now, both Intel and NVIDIA have pushed back their 4nm orders. And 7/8nm already produced chips are piling up with no buyer to be found (especially GPUs).
There was a bigger problem with chips built on older processes (e.g. power ICs and microcontrollers).