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Air pollution cancer breakthrough will rewrite the rules

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Re: Air pollution cancer breakthrough will rewrite the rules

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> 99% of people in the world live in places where air pollution exceeds the WHO guidelines Wow. I knew cities are polluted but this is extreme. In 50 years we might look at pollution as we look at smoking now, a terrible self-inflicted wound on civilization that took way too long to acknowledge and fix.

Don't forget the fraud of the whole Dieselgate scandal. We were all getting excess NO2 pumped out of diesel engines. Effectively shortening all our lifespans.

Just came back from a trip to Albania and let me tell you those NOX are still getting pumped in the air there and will be for quite some time given that "sell it to someone somewhere else" is our go-to "solution" for owning a pollutant car:

> Albania is amongst the countries in Europe with the lowest number of new cars on the road, with just 0.6% under two years old

https://exit.al/en/2022/08/26/old-cars-dominate-albanian-roa...

This right there is why in my mind every single afflicted unit should have been recalled, replaced by VW and the others, and resale banned. We're letting others suffer and die for our unwillingness to hold our own elites responsible.

Re: Air pollution cancer breakthrough will rewrite the rules

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget the fraud of the whole Dieselgate scandal. We were all getting excess NO2 pumped out of diesel engines. Effectively shortening all our lifespans.

Just came back from a trip to Albania and let me tell you those NOX are still getting pumped in the air there and will be for quite some time given that "sell it to someone somewhere else" is our go-to "solution" for owning a pollutant car: > Albania is amongst the countries in Europe with the lowest number of new cars on the road, with just 0.6% under two years old https://exit.al/en/2022/08/26/old-cars-dominate-alb…

It’s difficult to judge this in a vacuum. On one hand, toxic emissions. On the other hand, someone who can drive to the hospital in an emergency.

Re: Air pollution cancer breakthrough will rewrite the rules

#33
post #22

> 99% of people in the world live in places where air pollution exceeds the WHO guidelines Wow. I knew cities are polluted but this is extreme. In 50 years we might look at pollution as we look at smoking now, a terrible self-inflicted wound on civilization that took way too long to acknowledge and fix.

Why wait 50 years??

Re: Air pollution cancer breakthrough will rewrite the rules

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just came back from a trip to Albania and let me tell you those NOX are still getting pumped in the air there and will be for quite some time given that "sell it to someone somewhere else" is our go-to "solution" for owning a pollutant car: > Albania is amongst the countries in Europe with the lowest number of new cars on the road, with just 0.6% under two years old https://exit.al/en/2022/08/26/old-cars-dominate-alb…

It’s difficult to judge this in a vacuum. On one hand, toxic emissions. On the other hand, someone who can drive to the hospital in an emergency.

Once every 10,000 trips, one drives to the hospital in an emergency.

Re: Air pollution cancer breakthrough will rewrite the rules

#35
post #14

It would be interesting to know if the probability of developing cancer has a linear relationship with the amount of air pollution. For example would double the amount of PM2.5 pollution double the cancer risk?

Probably quadruple (but I’m just guessing)

Re: Air pollution cancer breakthrough will rewrite the rules

#37

Proponents of fasting will love this, since the idea is that not eating for a while will cause the body to scavenge for this old / damaged cell material.

Spermidine does this as well.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15548627.2018.1...

If you want to know how to increase it ask me how.

Re: Air pollution cancer breakthrough will rewrite the rules

#38
post #22

> 99% of people in the world live in places where air pollution exceeds the WHO guidelines Wow. I knew cities are polluted but this is extreme. In 50 years we might look at pollution as we look at smoking now, a terrible self-inflicted wound on civilization that took way too long to acknowledge and fix.

Don't forget the fraud of the whole Dieselgate scandal. We were all getting excess NO2 pumped out of diesel engines. Effectively shortening all our lifespans.

Diesel is a scandal many orders of magnitude bigger than asbestos and smoking, and we'll look back on it with that reverence.

That in the UK most diesel drivers remove their particulate filters to increase fuel efficiency (meaning that essentially every white van on the road is rolling coal like a Texan), makes it all the worse.

It's not even the lung damage, the brain damage that's been caused (there's ongoing research that may yet associate the spike in autism and neurodegenerative diseases in Europe with diesel exposure since it was incentivised) could be even more prevalent.

Margaret Heffernan did a willful blindness Ted Talk about this just about ten years ago that really rings true on this topic.

https://www.ted.com/talks/margaret_heffernan_the_dangers_of_...

Re: Air pollution cancer breakthrough will rewrite the rules

#39

Proponents of fasting will love this, since the idea is that not eating for a while will cause the body to scavenge for this old / damaged cell material.

Spermidine does this as well. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15548627.2018.1... If you want to know how to increase it ask me how.

> Dietary spermidine is rapidly resorbed from the intestine and distributed in the body without degradation [37].

Re: Air pollution cancer breakthrough will rewrite the rules

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spermidine does this as well. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15548627.2018.1... If you want to know how to increase it ask me how.

> Dietary spermidine is rapidly resorbed from the intestine and distributed in the body without degradation [37].

Not only by diet, we make spermidine endogenously.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Wesley-Brooks-2/publica...

B6 will increase ODC and AMD1 activity.

B2 for SMOX and PAO.

This will keep this pathyway functioning well.

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