The big names provide recording and transcription now - Zoom has it, Teams has it (Teams apparently does it realtime and live and it's not bad, great for the deaf!). I suppose those are part of paid plans, and they trigger the "your shit is being recorded, dude." warnings.
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#32Depending on where you live, that might violate wiretapping laws. Most of North America requires at least one party consent.
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#33The big names provide recording and transcription now - Zoom has it, Teams has it (Teams apparently does it realtime and live and it's not bad, great for the deaf!). I suppose those are part of paid plans, and they trigger the "your shit is being recorded, dude." warnings.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would a screenshot really prove anything, though? It would be trivial to modify
When working a large enterprise, legal asked technology if we could create and store a screenshot of every email going out for evidence in court.
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#35If you're in a two party consent state, probably worth the effort to file a complaint with your state's attorney general.
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#36There are plenty of places where this is illegal wiretapping, whether it’s you doing it or otterai is debatable. https://recordinglaw.com/party-two-party-consent-states/
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#37Depending on where you live, that might violate wiretapping laws. Most of North America requires at least one party consent.
I’m not in agreement with this idea, but i wonder if these companies could legally be considered a participant and therefore the one party consenting…
Re: Tell HN: Otter.ai bot recording meetings without consent
#38Depending on where you live, that might violate wiretapping laws. Most of North America requires at least one party consent.
I’m not in agreement with this idea, but i wonder if these companies could legally be considered a participant and therefore the one party consenting…
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#39Re: Tell HN: Otter.ai bot recording meetings without consent
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You don't need a more privacy focused app, you just need another app and probably to become a customer so you can get the support you clearly want. A local transcription, manually triggered service would solve the concern I think. > You don't need a more privacy focused app, you just need another app and probably to become a customer so you can get the support you clearly want. I think there's a difference between…
> I think there's a difference between free users with a "hey, my app is broken" complaint and "hey, you just did something incredibly wrong" complaint. It would be like if free Dropbox started uploading random files that it wasn't allowed to in the settings. The thing is, you would need to review each of the complaints to know which is which. If you're providing no support and because you're not taking money for the…
Just because you're not taking money doesn't mean you can break the law without liability! Even outside of GDPR/CCPA, most states require all parties to consent in recording and every state requires at least one party to consent in recording.
I do agree that this is the kind of service worth paying for if you want privacy and I'm not a lawyer so I can't say that this is actually illegal, but if you're ignoring not just "hey this is incredibly wrong" tickets but "hey this is illegal and I'm warning you before I file an official complaint" that seems like it will end poorly.