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Killing invasive species is now a competitive sport

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Re: Killing invasive species is now a competitive sport

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Can we do similar like we did wit regard to mosquitos where we capture a bunch, crisper the dna so offspring is infertile, and introduce a big batch back in to spread the gene?

Yes https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01186-6

I think the parent comment was familiar with that and was asking whether we could also do the same for these fish.

Re: Killing invasive species is now a competitive sport

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post #8

you haven’t had fun on this planet until you've gone hunting for invasive hogs in florida or texas. stars, night observation devices, suppressed semiautomatic rifles. regardless of your stance on guns or killing things almost as smart as humans, you should give this fun and useful activity a try sometime. you’ll learn some skills and make solid friends along the way.

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Re: Killing invasive species is now a competitive sport

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post #8

you haven’t had fun on this planet until you've gone hunting for invasive hogs in florida or texas. stars, night observation devices, suppressed semiautomatic rifles. regardless of your stance on guns or killing things almost as smart as humans, you should give this fun and useful activity a try sometime. you’ll learn some skills and make solid friends along the way.

I've spent time in the past shooting feral rabbits, foxes and cats here in Australia, which do immeasurable harm to the native ecosystems. It can be a fairly engaging activity, but it does pay to keep in mind that it's not the animals fault that they're born into the environment they're in, and as such you do try to minimise the level of suffering around it (i.e. I'm not a fan of people bow hunting which isn't an ins…

If you're in Australia the wild boar in Queensland, kangaroo & feral goats in South Australia, and the fallow deer in Tasmania should be added to the list.

I'd also argue for permanent open season on roaming cats.

Re: Killing invasive species is now a competitive sport

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post #13

This makes me immediately think about the Cobra effect anecdote (or fable?). Basically, the Indian gov't tried to control the snake population by offering a bounty, and people started breeding snakes and killing them for bounty money. Better writeup here: https://ourworld.unu.edu/en/systems-thinking-and-the-cobra-e...

Cheating in fishing competitions is a thing that happens.

Re: Killing invasive species is now a competitive sport

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post #13

This makes me immediately think about the Cobra effect anecdote (or fable?). Basically, the Indian gov't tried to control the snake population by offering a bounty, and people started breeding snakes and killing them for bounty money. Better writeup here: https://ourworld.unu.edu/en/systems-thinking-and-the-cobra-e...

Yeah, people are gonna start breeding lionfish and sneaking them into their competitions /s

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Re: Killing invasive species is now a competitive sport

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I've spent time in the past shooting feral rabbits, foxes and cats here in Australia, which do immeasurable harm to the native ecosystems. It can be a fairly engaging activity, but it does pay to keep in mind that it's not the animals fault that they're born into the environment they're in, and as such you do try to minimise the level of suffering around it (i.e. I'm not a fan of people bow hunting which isn't an ins…

If you're in Australia the wild boar in Queensland, kangaroo & feral goats in South Australia, and the fallow deer in Tasmania should be added to the list. I'd also argue for permanent open season on roaming cats.

Yep feral pigs and goats are a big issue in WA too, as well as camels in the north.

Re: Killing invasive species is now a competitive sport

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It sounds like a great way to earn the company of fellow psychopaths. The ecological need is easy to understand, but turning it into a "sport" tells you a lot about the caliber of people we're living with. The people engaging in this activity are worse than poachers; at least poachers kill to earn a living.

Worse how? Because they're enjoying something that needs to be done? These hogs would be more than happy to kill and eat you if they could. They regularly break into back yards and kill pets. If an animal is happy to pop slats off a fence and disembowel my cousin's dog I'm happy to put a bullet in it.

Yep. I’m not an opponent of capital punishment for example but wouldn’t want a government executioner to get a hardon while he does it.

Re: Killing invasive species is now a competitive sport

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Fogg spears two hundred creatures, in two trips, before returning to his boat... (Fogg has posted his video on YouTube, and it has been watched more than a million times.) It's very disappointing that they don't link directly to this video[1], unlike the New York Times which always links directly to their sources and references. It seems like the New York Times is the only mainstream news site that's not absolutely t…

You said NYT twice, did you mean New Yorker for one?

Re: Killing invasive species is now a competitive sport

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post #13

This makes me immediately think about the Cobra effect anecdote (or fable?). Basically, the Indian gov't tried to control the snake population by offering a bounty, and people started breeding snakes and killing them for bounty money. Better writeup here: https://ourworld.unu.edu/en/systems-thinking-and-the-cobra-e...

This happened in New Zealand with possums. Originally intentionally introduced to begin a fur trade industry in the 1800s [0], by the 1960s the Government was undertaking eradication efforts. One of these was a bounty, which resulted in possums being intentionally introduced into Northland so that the bounty could be collected there as well. [1] Northland is "cut off" from the rest of the non-urban area of New Zealand by Auckland, being an urban area from coast to coast. Possums had previously not spread through the city to Northland. The bounty took care of that.

[0] https://teara.govt.nz/en/possums/page-1 [1] https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/2434006/A-hard-road-to-poss...

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