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Stable Diffusion PR optimizes VRAM, generate 576x1280 images with 6 GB VRAM

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Re: Stable Diffusion PR optimizes VRAM, generate 576x1280 images with 6 GB VRAM

#31

Post by esjeon »

p-e-w wrote: post #27
qdot76367 wrote: post #11

For everyone about to comment on the garbage in the commit: It looks like the committer made their changes in the top commit, then merged the updated CompViz StableDiffusion change set on top of it for some reason. That's where the license change, rick astley image, etc come from. And yes, StableDiffusion from the original repo will rick roll you if you try to generate something that triggers its NSFW filter. Here's…

> And yes, StableDiffusion from the original repo will rick roll you if you try to generate something that triggers its NSFW filter. It goes without saying that the authors of a piece of software have the right to make the software do whatever they want, but that shouldn't stop us from recognizing that AI engineers are starting to act like megalomaniac overseers who consider it part of their mission to steer humanity…

Yeah, but, when it comes to generating NSFW contents, it is illegal to distribute pornographic software in some countries, and doing so can lead to domain blockage and such (i.e. South Korea, believe or not). This is something you gotta understand.

Also, if the author wanted to block NSFW contents at all, I'm pretty sure one can actually make the filter inseparable from the main network. This isn't the case here AFAIK.

Re: Stable Diffusion PR optimizes VRAM, generate 576x1280 images with 6 GB VRAM

#32

Post by 0cVlTeIATBs »

p-e-w wrote: post #27
qdot76367 wrote: post #11

For everyone about to comment on the garbage in the commit: It looks like the committer made their changes in the top commit, then merged the updated CompViz StableDiffusion change set on top of it for some reason. That's where the license change, rick astley image, etc come from. And yes, StableDiffusion from the original repo will rick roll you if you try to generate something that triggers its NSFW filter. Here's…

> And yes, StableDiffusion from the original repo will rick roll you if you try to generate something that triggers its NSFW filter. It goes without saying that the authors of a piece of software have the right to make the software do whatever they want, but that shouldn't stop us from recognizing that AI engineers are starting to act like megalomaniac overseers who consider it part of their mission to steer humanity…

Devil's advocate, this output could have unexpected results, making a filter possibly desirable. Browsers do filter by default with safe browsing URL lists for malware, and they gate access to sites with bad certificates. But agreed users should have control, leaving such filters as safe defaults only.

Re: Stable Diffusion PR optimizes VRAM, generate 576x1280 images with 6 GB VRAM

#33

Post by Arainach »

p-e-w wrote: post #27
qdot76367 wrote: post #11

For everyone about to comment on the garbage in the commit: It looks like the committer made their changes in the top commit, then merged the updated CompViz StableDiffusion change set on top of it for some reason. That's where the license change, rick astley image, etc come from. And yes, StableDiffusion from the original repo will rick roll you if you try to generate something that triggers its NSFW filter. Here's…

> And yes, StableDiffusion from the original repo will rick roll you if you try to generate something that triggers its NSFW filter. It goes without saying that the authors of a piece of software have the right to make the software do whatever they want, but that shouldn't stop us from recognizing that AI engineers are starting to act like megalomaniac overseers who consider it part of their mission to steer humanity…

What's creepy is the very real world that we're approaching where anyone can create porn of anyone else given a few pictures without their consent. That can cause all sorts of lasting psychological harm and other societal negative consequences. Even if this probably can't be entirely avoided, that doesn't mean that the folks developing these models are obligated to make it easy or are incorrect to take steps to avoid it.

Re: Stable Diffusion PR optimizes VRAM, generate 576x1280 images with 6 GB VRAM

#34

Post by qdot76367 »

p-e-w wrote: post #27
qdot76367 wrote: post #11

For everyone about to comment on the garbage in the commit: It looks like the committer made their changes in the top commit, then merged the updated CompViz StableDiffusion change set on top of it for some reason. That's where the license change, rick astley image, etc come from. And yes, StableDiffusion from the original repo will rick roll you if you try to generate something that triggers its NSFW filter. Here's…

> And yes, StableDiffusion from the original repo will rick roll you if you try to generate something that triggers its NSFW filter. It goes without saying that the authors of a piece of software have the right to make the software do whatever they want, but that shouldn't stop us from recognizing that AI engineers are starting to act like megalomaniac overseers who consider it part of their mission to steer humanity…

Nah it’s just basic due diligence for releasing an open source app of this nature. Turning it off is a simple one line change, because everything is obviously named. This is not some high wall to scale.

As someone that manages nsfw open source projects, this move seems fine to me.

And actually kinda hilarious.

Re: Stable Diffusion PR optimizes VRAM, generate 576x1280 images with 6 GB VRAM

#35

Post by [deleted] »

cercatrova wrote: post #21
ceeplusplus wrote: post #4

Unfortunately the author of this PR decided to include garbage like this [1] in it, so this PR is pretty useless. [1] https://github.com/basujindal/stable-diffusion/pull/103/file...

How is that garbage? That license is part of the original SD repository, the creator Emad even talks about it in his initial post, about the OpenRAIL M License [0]: > i) The model is being released under a Creative ML OpenRAIL-M license [ https://huggingface.co/spaces/CompVis/stable-diffusion-licen... ]. This is a permissive license that allows for commercial and non-commercial usage. This license is focused on ethic…

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Re: Stable Diffusion PR optimizes VRAM, generate 576x1280 images with 6 GB VRAM

#36

Post by hda2 »

Arainach wrote: post #33
p-e-w wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And yes, StableDiffusion from the original repo will rick roll you if you try to generate something that triggers its NSFW filter. It goes without saying that the authors of a piece of software have the right to make the software do whatever they want, but that shouldn't stop us from recognizing that AI engineers are starting to act like megalomaniac overseers who consider it part of their mission to steer humanity…

What's creepy is the very real world that we're approaching where anyone can create porn of anyone else given a few pictures without their consent. That can cause all sorts of lasting psychological harm and other societal negative consequences. Even if this probably can't be entirely avoided, that doesn't mean that the folks developing these models are obligated to make it easy or are incorrect to take steps to avoid…

> What's creepy is the very real world that we're approaching where anyone can create porn of anyone else given a few pictures without their consent.

Why is that a problem, exactly?

> That can cause all sorts of lasting psychological harm and other societal negative consequences.

Like what? To me this sounds like a problem with how some people want to have absolute control over what others do and want everyone else to play along. That's what I find really creepy.

Someone wants to generate porn of me fucking a donkey? Let them. They already could do that with ms-paint and I don't get magically harmed if they do.

This reminds me of the old saying: "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but AI-generated/photoshopped/glued-together pictures of me fucking a donkey will never hurt me" :)

Re: Stable Diffusion PR optimizes VRAM, generate 576x1280 images with 6 GB VRAM

#37

Post by p-e-w »

0cVlTeIATBs wrote: post #32
p-e-w wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And yes, StableDiffusion from the original repo will rick roll you if you try to generate something that triggers its NSFW filter. It goes without saying that the authors of a piece of software have the right to make the software do whatever they want, but that shouldn't stop us from recognizing that AI engineers are starting to act like megalomaniac overseers who consider it part of their mission to steer humanity…

Devil's advocate, this output could have unexpected results, making a filter possibly desirable. Browsers do filter by default with safe browsing URL lists for malware, and they gate access to sites with bad certificates. But agreed users should have control, leaving such filters as safe defaults only.

> Browsers do filter by default with safe browsing URL lists for malware

Yes, for malware. As in, software created by criminals to damage your computer and/or steal your personal information.

That's not even remotely comparable to what StableDiffusion does here. What they do is refuse to generate content you requested, based on opaque criteria that no doubt are ultimately influenced by quasi-religious sentiments retained from the Bronze Age.

Re: Stable Diffusion PR optimizes VRAM, generate 576x1280 images with 6 GB VRAM

#38

Post by p-e-w »

qdot76367 wrote: post #34
p-e-w wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And yes, StableDiffusion from the original repo will rick roll you if you try to generate something that triggers its NSFW filter. It goes without saying that the authors of a piece of software have the right to make the software do whatever they want, but that shouldn't stop us from recognizing that AI engineers are starting to act like megalomaniac overseers who consider it part of their mission to steer humanity…

Nah it’s just basic due diligence for releasing an open source app of this nature. Turning it off is a simple one line change, because everything is obviously named. This is not some high wall to scale. As someone that manages nsfw open source projects, this move seems fine to me. And actually kinda hilarious.

If what StableDiffusion did was ask the user something like "The prompt you entered may result in the generation of content some people find objectionable. Are you sure you want to proceed?", then I would buy your argument.

As currently implemented (and the implementation took more work than a confirmation prompt would have!), it's an obvious attempt to control, rather than protect, users. They try their best to dress it up like a joke, but it clearly isn't.

Re: Stable Diffusion PR optimizes VRAM, generate 576x1280 images with 6 GB VRAM

#39

Post by zarzavat »

cercatrova wrote: post #21
ceeplusplus wrote: post #4

Unfortunately the author of this PR decided to include garbage like this [1] in it, so this PR is pretty useless. [1] https://github.com/basujindal/stable-diffusion/pull/103/file...

How is that garbage? That license is part of the original SD repository, the creator Emad even talks about it in his initial post, about the OpenRAIL M License [0]: > i) The model is being released under a Creative ML OpenRAIL-M license [ https://huggingface.co/spaces/CompVis/stable-diffusion-licen... ]. This is a permissive license that allows for commercial and non-commercial usage. This license is focused on ethic…

It’s worth to point out that there’s no consensus yet on whether ML models (as in the weights) are actually copyrightable. If you’re using them, you should probably assume that they are. If you’re distributing them, you should probably assume that they aren’t.

Re: Stable Diffusion PR optimizes VRAM, generate 576x1280 images with 6 GB VRAM

#40

Post by icelancer »

p-e-w wrote: post #38
qdot76367 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah it’s just basic due diligence for releasing an open source app of this nature. Turning it off is a simple one line change, because everything is obviously named. This is not some high wall to scale. As someone that manages nsfw open source projects, this move seems fine to me. And actually kinda hilarious.

If what StableDiffusion did was ask the user something like "The prompt you entered may result in the generation of content some people find objectionable. Are you sure you want to proceed?", then I would buy your argument. As currently implemented (and the implementation took more work than a confirmation prompt would have!), it's an obvious attempt to control, rather than protect, users. They try their best to dres…

It's open-source. Patch it out yourself. It's not hidden.
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