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Blocking Kiwifarms

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Re: Blocking Kiwifarms

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>Kiwifarms itself will most likely find other infrastructure that allows them to come back online, as the Daily Stormer and 8chan did themselves after we terminated them. And, even if they don't, the individuals that used the site to increasingly terrorize will feel even more isolated and attacked and may lash out further. There is real risk that by taking this action today we may have further heightened the emergenc…

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Re: Blocking Kiwifarms

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> We have never been their hosting provider That is simply not how it works. The bits came from Cloudflare.

That is not how it works both technically and legally. Providing a reverse proxy is not the same as hosting the content.

Technically that’s literally how it works.

Legally? Do you have evidence to support that theory?

Re: Blocking Kiwifarms

#39
What the hell is this travesty. Now any old nobody can kill a site by larping drama on fucking twitter.

You should all think about the people dying in dictatorships before you give up a free and open Internet over some paedophile using twitter clout to ban a gossip forum

Re: Blocking Kiwifarms

#40
There were no good choices for Cloudflare here, and everyone across the internet who jams their fingers in their ears and shouts their position repeatedly is just contributing to the problem.

Private companies should not be the de facto moderators of free speech in our society. They are forced into that position by woefully inadequate governance by legal authorities operating multiple decades behind the current landscape.

Given that they should never be in this position, Cloudflare is choosing between "platforming the bad guys" and "censoring free speech". They have navigated this imperfectly, but have done better than most would, I think.

I truly hope that those unsatisfied with this outcome (which I suspect will be literally everybody) can take this as an opportunity to go help pressure their respective governments to figure out what the hell should be done, systematically, about hate speech on the internet. It's only 25 years overdue at this point.

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