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>And I always think of that picture as an image of the 21st century’s first immunocapitalist.

I make the opposite argument - while huge numbers of ordinary citizens were kept under effective house arrest (or other restrictions), the wealthy and powerful became ever more wealthy and powerful while no-one was looking. We were turned into obedient, house-bound consumers of social media, low-grade TV, and mail-order rubbish.

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#32

>And I always think of that picture as an image of the 21st century’s first immunocapitalist. I make the opposite argument - while huge numbers of ordinary citizens were kept under effective house arrest (or other restrictions), the wealthy and powerful became ever more wealthy and powerful while no-one was looking. We were turned into obedient, house-bound consumers of social media, low-grade TV, and mail-order rubb…

> We were turned into obedient, house-bound consumers of social media, low-grade TV, and mail-order rubbish.

Nothing forces you to be a consumer of social media, low-grade TV or mail-order rubbish. Take responsibility for your own actions.

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>And I always think of that picture as an image of the 21st century’s first immunocapitalist. I make the opposite argument - while huge numbers of ordinary citizens were kept under effective house arrest (or other restrictions), the wealthy and powerful became ever more wealthy and powerful while no-one was looking. We were turned into obedient, house-bound consumers of social media, low-grade TV, and mail-order rubb…

> We were turned into obedient, house-bound consumers of social media, low-grade TV, and mail-order rubbish. Nothing forces you to be a consumer of social media, low-grade TV or mail-order rubbish. Take responsibility for your own actions.

I did not. I have a young child, and refused to follow the herd and just sit everyone in front of a tablet or Netflix. It made my life incredibly hard and lonely - have you tried occupying a 1-year-old for a year, when you are under effective house arrest?

However, I am not talking about my personal choices, or who needs to take responsibility for actions. I am just pointing out that certain people have benefited enormously from lockdowns.

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#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the data to show just how ineffectual masks and the vaccines are. https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2022/s0715-COVID-VE.html " vaccine effectiveness (VE) was 61% for two doses against COVID-19-associated hospitalizations; VE increased to between 85%–92% after receipt of a third/booster dose. " " COVID-19 vaccines remain our single most important tool to protect people against serious illness, hospitalization, and…

They literally told us we wouldn’t even get sick if we got the vaccine. What other vaccine requires endless boosters and you still get sick?

Did they.

CDC: "Some people who are vaccinated against COVID-19 will still get sick and have a vaccine breakthrough infection because no vaccine is 100% effective." - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/effective...

WHO: "It is still possible to get COVID-19 and spread it to others after being vaccinated" - https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2...

NHS: "Research has shown the vaccines help: reduce your risk of getting seriously ill or dying from COVID-19 [...] There is a chance you might still get or spread COVID-19 even if you have a vaccine" - https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavir...

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#35

Fascinating article: > But they counter the pushback by essentially denying disease, both as an epidemiological reality and as a social reality too. Increasingly by the 1850s, you see people saying, well, yellow fever is not that big of a problem. It’s not that serious of an illness, and anybody who’s temperate and well-mannered and courageous and manly will survive. It only kills the immoral, the drunk, the unfortun…

Yes, this is an incredible article. Historians must weep at our idiocy. We are exactly as those New Orleans rich slave owners were then, such a terrible synchrony between yellow fever and covid. We are just the same, even though we think we are different. So similar, even to the call to be manly and not let covid keep you down.

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#36

> It’s actually a miraculous demonstration of just how effective martial law can be in stopping diseases, I guess, and how effective quarantine could be when properly instituted and rigorously upheld. In case of endemic disease the question is "Do I want to live under martial law till the rest of my life?"

It was never martial law in the US. It was make basic sensible choices like wearing masks and if possible not being in large groups to reduce the chance of covid. Then it later became all about macho people ignoring it. Imagine if covid had come during Bush 1 or Bush 2.
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