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Re: Ask HN: Boring but important tech no one is working on?

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Not tech but I think millenials, gen Z, and younger have lost the know-how to make a dollar independently of mega corps. I never see kids going door to door mowing lawns anymore, for example.

You need a peaceful society for that. Also the State will fine you for not having a license to mow lawns. Something like that. Western world is a post-liberty world.

Re: Ask HN: Boring but important tech no one is working on?

#32
I think there is some truth to the generational knowledge transfer because the tech industry is still young. That said, we should not expect the generation gap to play an outsized role in tech compared to manufacturing, engineering, etc.

Where the technology is mission critical, healthcare companies have worked for decades to train new developers on 1980’s tech.

In the same way that all cultural understanding can become extinct, we probably are losing some bits of wisdom as older generations age out. The problem is it’s not obvious what bits of wisdom are being lost, even to the aged.

Finally, given Moore’s law, many of the constraints which drove early decisions no longer apply. As long as we are on a hyper-growth curve in technology cost and adoption rates, we will suffer from a lack of wisdom, and need lots of extra energy to be spent on bad ideas in order to make progress.

Eventually, when growth rates slow down, we will have a more developed sense of what technological wisdom looks like in the long term. The good news is, that will happen on its own. The bad news is It’s a long way off.

Re: Ask HN: Boring but important tech no one is working on?

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Not tech but I think millenials, gen Z, and younger have lost the know-how to make a dollar independently of mega corps. I never see kids going door to door mowing lawns anymore, for example.

I disagree with this, I'm (unfortunately) swamped with short videos on how to 'make side hustles' doing just these sorts of things due to the cost of living crisis.

Re: Ask HN: Boring but important tech no one is working on?

#35

Not tech but I think millenials, gen Z, and younger have lost the know-how to make a dollar independently of mega corps. I never see kids going door to door mowing lawns anymore, for example.

As a millennial here's my childhood experience with that:

I knocked on the door of an older lady (Silent Gen, or Greatest Gen) in my small town and negotiated to mow her lawn and the price.

An unemployed older Baby Boomer who lived halfway between us saw me and/or overheard our conversation.

As I was walking back to get my dad's push-mower & prepare it to run, this neighbor jumped on his riding lawnmower and quickly mowed the lady's lawn.

I arrived with my push mower in time to see the neighbor with the riding lawnmower accepting payment from the lady for my job.

This is not a metaphor; it's a true story. Make of it what you will...

Re: Ask HN: Boring but important tech no one is working on?

#36
Educational games. Hear me out. The way we teach us basically how we did it 500 years ago. This is stupid, boring and not scalable. We dont have enough teachers, attention span is short, education is costly. So we need something that scales, is fun and involves all types of media plus gamifies education. Think Skyrim or GTA meets MS Encarta

Re: Ask HN: Boring but important tech no one is working on?

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My thoughts exactly. Knowledge transfer in manufacturing / industrial environments is something that I'm working on. - Language models / NLP applications for processing large amount of technical text data (SOP, documentation, technical data, machine text logs, voice to text, video data processing for speeding up corrective action, training, onboarding and highlighting areas of improvement / bottlenecks), digitising d…

I would not just knowledge transfer, but knowledge organization. We have so many different ways to represent knowledge, but it is very hard to access it or know where to look. I think better training and investigation into best practices of organizing knowledge would benefit all industries.

Former librarian here, now at a tech co. This is exactly the domain of information science, and its a salutary tale in two industries talking past one another. Librarians have deep training in the science, philosophy and psychology of information storage and retrieval. Most of the time you think of things like Dewey numbers on library books buts its much more than that. At the dawn of the second internet age (circa 1991, think gopher, WAIS, Archie and a nascent thing called the web) there was a boatload of discussion around what this Internet thing would mean for information.

Then, the tech bros arrived and after a few abortive attempts to catalog things for themselves (webrings, portals, yahoo) the industry collectively shrugged and decided to ignore the problem, assuming that a search engine would always be able to pluck your favorite needle out of the haystack.

Except that, today, it cant. Intranets are essentially corporate graveyards of content. The public web is a webring of 7 or 8 megasites that vacuum up all searches and make it all but impossible to break out of their domain. That article you read in 2005 about XYZ? Forget it, you're never finding that with Google.

Re: Ask HN: Boring but important tech no one is working on?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would not just knowledge transfer, but knowledge organization. We have so many different ways to represent knowledge, but it is very hard to access it or know where to look. I think better training and investigation into best practices of organizing knowledge would benefit all industries.

I'd agree with knowledge organization. It's either you have to root through academic texts or try and navigate the spammy internet with no really happy medium. It's almost like there's a complete lack of quality middle ground information. It's either total SEO garbage or very low quality entry level information or incredibly specific/dense academic content and the middle ground is missing.

Back when I was in grad school, PhD theses were indispensable for actually learning my way around a topic.

The academic literature itself (even review papers) was way too terse and (I believe, semi-intentionally) obfuscatory.

Re: Ask HN: Boring but important tech no one is working on?

#39

Not tech but I think millenials, gen Z, and younger have lost the know-how to make a dollar independently of mega corps. I never see kids going door to door mowing lawns anymore, for example.

Non-tech DIY in general is becoming lost. There is so much knowledge available on YouTube but so many of my younger friends just pay people $hundreds to do very simple, quick things. I’m not talking about transmission replacement, but ridiculously simple things like fixing a leaking toilet and changing motor oil.

Re: Ask HN: Boring but important tech no one is working on?

#40

Machining. No child left without a 5-axis milling machine!

Titan's of CNC and Haas both have great youtube channels addressing training because of exactly this.

>Titan's of CNC and Haas both have great youtube channels addressing training because of exactly this.

I would love to get into aerospace manufacturing. Any chance a code monkey can make the switch? What is the entry level pathway like?

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