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Re: YaCy – your own search engine

#31
post #19

I love the idea of this, but I tried to spin up my own instance and was immediately overwhelmed by the million little knobs and settings for it. It seems like a lot of fun if you understand all the tuning, but I feel like the current state alienates most users who want to use it in simple scenarios.

Default settings works well enough but I agree 90% should be hidden behind an advanced settings check box. (I suspect the organization of features is more obvious in German.) There are also lots of other cool things one can do that are not in the interface but arguably should be.

That said, for what it is it is pretty epic already. As a proof of concept it's completely convincing.

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

#32

Recently installed YaCy on my Synology via docker image the provide. Already saved about 10Gb of content interesting to me. Now, I have a personal Search Engine. Awesome.

Off-topic, but how do you like Synology? I'm familiar with one of their units for work, but I'm looking into a new NAS for my home, and I'm trying to decide between Synology or building my own and putting Nextcloud on it.

Grearly depends on what you are expecting from it.

After $300 per unit S. has only two advantages:

1. Form-factor: you can build a comparable small enough unit from OTC/OTS parts but usually it costs at least $200 more

2. Basic functionality (ie filesharing eg with SMB) just works, with a nice webgui to configure it.

If you need something more...

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

#33
post #20

If you haven't heard of Brave Goggles ( https://github.com/brave/goggles-quickstart ) I highly recommend checking it out. Just being able to create the search index is a massive task, so being able to apply rules server-side to their "expanded recall set" will give you what most people building search engines want, which is to control the algorithm. We weren't able to do that until now since applying rules client-sid…

Kagi ( https://kagi.com ) has very similar tools with their "Lenses" and customizable prioritization of specific domains.

Kagi actually did it first, I think. Too bad everyone only knows about it via Brave, Kagi is an awesome search engine

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see Brave. I close tab. I don't trust them or anybody that pushes their offerings which are just crypto ponzi schemes.

The crypto stuff is disabled by default, get a new talking point.

a deliberate ponzi enabling mechanism shouldn't even be available

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

#35
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kagi ( https://kagi.com ) has very similar tools with their "Lenses" and customizable prioritization of specific domains.

Kagi actually did it first, I think. Too bad everyone only knows about it via Brave, Kagi is an awesome search engine

Seconding, Kagi is great. I hope they succeed…

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

#36
post #23

It's interesting that this uses a distributed P2P index. That's a very good idea and one of the things that has held me back from even thinking about trying to build my own tech-focused search engine. One thing I was hoping to see in the FAQ was how they prevent rogue nodes from inserting spam or other kinds of mischief into the public index.

They don't really. You have to apply your own filtering.

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

#37

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I used a small Synology NAS from 2012-2019, at which point I replaced it with small linux box because I wanted ZFS. Inability to support ZFS was really the only reason I replaced it; it was still working fine.

What software are you running, and how much time do you spend on maintenance?

Vanilla Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. Every couple of months or so I update all the packages and reboot. That's really all the maintenance I've ever done on it, apart from initial setup. I ought to set it up so that it can email me if a zfs scrub ever detects a problem, but I haven't done that yet.

Re: YaCy – your own search engine

#38
post #20

If you haven't heard of Brave Goggles ( https://github.com/brave/goggles-quickstart ) I highly recommend checking it out. Just being able to create the search index is a massive task, so being able to apply rules server-side to their "expanded recall set" will give you what most people building search engines want, which is to control the algorithm. We weren't able to do that until now since applying rules client-sid…

Kagi ( https://kagi.com ) has very similar tools with their "Lenses" and customizable prioritization of specific domains.

Kagi is a weird beast. I'd like to use it but I also don't understand how searches are private if I have to login. Not understanding that is definitely on me but I feel like it should be a frequent enough question that they try to make the answer obvious.
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