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Are You Intellectually Humble?

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Re: Are You Intellectually Humble?

#31
Some of the comments here discuss humbleness in general, which is different from what this post is about. The article talks about being intellectually humble, and defines it as the ability to self reflect and accept the possibility that you are wrong.

It is different from the standard context of being humble, which is usually to avoid bragging about own's success. Being able to accept own's mistakes, even when you're sure you're right, is another, big, step forward.

Re: Are You Intellectually Humble?

#33

The only advantage I see at beeing humble is that it does not offend people with low self-esteem. One only needs to say to be good at something or to be proud of something to trigger some people. More so in Europe than in the States I think.

The biggest problem is you deny yourself the process of attaining true humility if you put up a “act as if” facade of being humble. It’s a falsehood, what you mean to say is you are being non-confrontational.

There is a process in attaining humility, you cannot just adorn yourself in it from the start.

Re: Are You Intellectually Humble?

#34

"The outcome of too much humility is that you end up listening to the counsel of some mediocre individual." Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406)

Can you cite this quote in its original language? I'd be interested to read it. Google translate gives me: "نتيجة الكثير من التواضع هي أن ينتهي بك الأمر بالاستماع إلى مشورة شخص متوسط المستوى."

Re: Are You Intellectually Humble?

#35
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unsure if your own comment is sarcastic, but GP's quote is from Drax in Guardians of the Galaxy.

I like the quote in its use of sarcasm to emphasize a point. I completely dislike that its apparent value also comes because it's a quote from a comedic character in a comedy film. I mean, that diminishes its value as sarcasm, and it becomes just a canned answer.

How appropriate, you fight like a cow

Re: Are You Intellectually Humble?

#37

The only advantage I see at beeing humble is that it does not offend people with low self-esteem. One only needs to say to be good at something or to be proud of something to trigger some people. More so in Europe than in the States I think.

And even more so in Japan.

But that's just culture/language. In the US, saying that you are good at something is expected, in other countries, you pass the same message just by just saying you do the thing. In these countries, if you say that you are good at something, it is the equivalent of saying "I am a fucking god and no one can approach me" in the US, it is just rude.

Re: Are You Intellectually Humble?

#38
As a principle I agree with this but some environments make it possible. If your intellectual humility is almost guaranteed to be used against you as weakness and liability then such hostile environments mean you must at least fake arrogance.

But in my experience, the rare time it was encouraged to say "i don't know" and "I was wrong" were also the times when I was around the most competent and talented people.

Re: Are You Intellectually Humble?

#39

But how can a humble person accomplish something extraordinary? At some point, you gotta have faith in what you're doing, despite all the opposition. Very rarely are accomplishments made traveling a road strewn with flowers.

But there are always counterexamples too ... Stephen Wolframs and Nassim Talebs
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