The part that scares me is that we, as web designers/developers/owners, are complicit in this. We are the ones who are putting social buttons on every page. We love this functionality, but they aren't giving it to us for free. We are trading them our user's information and browsing habits. I'm not worried about the ethics of Facebook. I don't think a site like Facebook should be prevented from doing this openly. I'm…
Facebook Privacy: Site Confirms It Tracks You After You Leave
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#32This is why I visit Facebook in one browser, G* in another, and everything else in yet a third.
/s/facebook/any other social service you intend to use.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cookies do not cross browsers. If he's using a second browser, Facebook cannot read the cookies set in the first browser. They could use some IP matching logic or something, but it would be prone to a lot of false positives.
I believe this isn't always the case. If you're using multiple browsers in OS X all built on Webkit for instance, they share the same cookie store. Firefox and multiple firefox profiles isolate cookie storage and I also use Fluid on OS X to build site-specific browsers. The paid version offers a feature to isolate cookie storage within each app.
New browser feature - open this site in a temp VM.
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#34The part that scares me is that we, as web designers/developers/owners, are complicit in this. We are the ones who are putting social buttons on every page. We love this functionality, but they aren't giving it to us for free. We are trading them our user's information and browsing habits. I'm not worried about the ethics of Facebook. I don't think a site like Facebook should be prevented from doing this openly. I'm…
You can host an image locally, and create a link using it. You don't need to hand over the browser of all of your visitors to one or more AD companies by letting them execute arbitrary JavaScript on your pages.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
I believe this isn't always the case. If you're using multiple browsers in OS X all built on Webkit for instance, they share the same cookie store. Firefox and multiple firefox profiles isolate cookie storage and I also use Fluid on OS X to build site-specific browsers. The paid version offers a feature to isolate cookie storage within each app.
> If you're using multiple browsers in OS X all built on Webkit for instance, they share the same cookie store. Where are you getting this? Safari and Chrome (both built on webkit) definitely do not share cookie stores on OS X.
The easiest way to test this is with Safari and any of the OS X site-specific browser or http debugging tools.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
I believe this isn't always the case. If you're using multiple browsers in OS X all built on Webkit for instance, they share the same cookie store. Firefox and multiple firefox profiles isolate cookie storage and I also use Fluid on OS X to build site-specific browsers. The paid version offers a feature to isolate cookie storage within each app.
Webkits share cookies = ouch.. so you really need a VM. New browser feature - open this site in a temp VM.
I would encourage browsers that support isolated profiles, multiple browsers that don't share cookie storage, or using a jailed site-specific browser approach.
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#37The part that scares me is that we, as web designers/developers/owners, are complicit in this. We are the ones who are putting social buttons on every page. We love this functionality, but they aren't giving it to us for free. We are trading them our user's information and browsing habits. I'm not worried about the ethics of Facebook. I don't think a site like Facebook should be prevented from doing this openly. I'm…
I'm not a web dev so I'm a bit puzzled by the social buttons everywhere. How often do people actually click them? To what extent can they drive traffic to your site? I've often wondered if they're a bit like QR codes in that a small portion of people are enamored with them but few people actually use them.
* As a site operator, particularly if you're keen on 'organic' and free traffic, you need to keep on top of the latest in search engine and social marketing. Facebook and other social networks are becoming more important as traffic sources, as 'recommendations' from friends become more trusted. Bing and Facebook reached a deal to prioritize some results based on social recommendations ('likes'), and Google is rolling their own solution, so site owners have incentives to include the links.
* As a user, you generally want to see the most trusted results you can, and occasionally may want to recommend sites to your friends. Facebook's verbs 'like' and 'share' work well here - Google's '+1' is a little more opaque to most web users I'd suspect, but they're trying to convey the same intention.
* As Google/Facebook, you want as much data as possible about the behaviour of web traffic - search, engagement/interaction, conversion rates, even raw traffic figures. Even if people aren't interacting with these widgets, they are still often served up by AJAX from the source. This implies that Google/Facebook/etc see an incoming HTTP request, and sometimes associated cookies/referers. Add a little GeoIP and other user analysis, and you have very valuable data on aggregate.
All these generally seem like 'wins' for the parties involved - and that's usually the sign of good business taking place. For me, the main concern is that all this data belongs not to the general public, but to the widget providers, and large information disparities in any situation can be abused.
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#38The part that scares me is that we, as web designers/developers/owners, are complicit in this. We are the ones who are putting social buttons on every page. We love this functionality, but they aren't giving it to us for free. We are trading them our user's information and browsing habits. I'm not worried about the ethics of Facebook. I don't think a site like Facebook should be prevented from doing this openly. I'm…
I'm not a web dev so I'm a bit puzzled by the social buttons everywhere. How often do people actually click them? To what extent can they drive traffic to your site? I've often wondered if they're a bit like QR codes in that a small portion of people are enamored with them but few people actually use them.
actually, what started the decline was the very subject of this article. I don't like Facebook watching where I go, and I started putting Facebook in another browser; naturally, I'm on Facebook less because it's harder to get to.
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#40Big Brother Blue is always watching. It is becoming more and more obvious that we are nothing more than a pile of data to facebook, they don't look at us human beings who have a need for respect and privacy, but as potential data and revenue. I have always gotten the feeling that they think we are 'too dumb' to catch on, it's only a matter of time until the bubble bursts. They may still be a billion dollar company bu…