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Re: Poll: Distrust of Asian Americans is rising

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Post by bequanna »

anotheruser092 wrote: post #9
bequanna wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Many Americans remain unaware of the spike in anti-Asian American racism and hate over the past year. ...yet on the same page the responses to "How has your opinion of Asian Americans, in general changed over the past 12 months?" overwhelmingly skew to "stayed the same" or "positive". Maybe I'm missing something, but it certainly seems like they are trying to push a narrative that even their own data doesn't suppor…

Where's the contradiction? If you assume that people answered honestly, it's very possible that remaining proportion of people who viewed Asian Americans negatively were more likely to express anti-Asian American racism and hate over the past year, instead of keeping quiet about their views. Furthermore, a lot of people are biased to skew their responses or lie due to social-desirability bias [1]. The responses are s…

> It's highly plausible that many people said their opinion "stayed the same" while actually worsening.

This statement crosses the line into absurdity.

The poll (that they designed!) didn’t give the “correct” results so time to do some hand waving and move the goalposts.

I’ll never understand this obsession with imagined grievances and jumping through hoops to paint one’s self as a victim. What is the point? Attention? Pity?

Re: Poll: Distrust of Asian Americans is rising

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Post by oreally »

ok_dad wrote: post #29
oreally wrote: post #20

It's what happens when there's a world power feeling threatened by a rising upstart. Be skeptical, folks.

What, is China the rising upstart? China was doing amazing tech and had an amazing society for thousands of years before America was even discovered.

Yup, if you weed out all the political FUD the signs are pointing that way. History has often shown bickering happening between the upstart vs the incumbents as well.

Re: Poll: Distrust of Asian Americans is rising

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Post by vannevar »

bequanna wrote: post #30
vannevar wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where are you seeing this? I don't see anywhere in the report where it breaks those two questions down by party. Also worth observing that the report shows 35% of Republicans wouldn't be comfortable with an Asian American President, vs 20% of Democrats.

Try following the link in the original comment you replied to.

This link, right? https://www.staatus-index.org/

The screen that says "However, an increasing percentage of Americans in 2022 are questioning the loyalty of Asian Americans and blaming Asian Americans for the Covid-19 epidemic."? There's no drill-down there for me.

Update: ok, found it---it's not on the screen that shows the specific questions, you have to scroll down through the drop-down on the first screen.

Re: Poll: Distrust of Asian Americans is rising

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Post by dominotw »

1659447091 wrote: post #22
dominotw wrote: post #21

i am a naturalized american who used to have a different passport most of the life. I've pondered who I would support in a hypothetical war between the countries. I haven't been able to resolve this.

I would hope it is to the country you chose to pledge an Oath of Allegiance to in order to obtain the new citizenship and all of the benefits it has granted

hope i can uphold my Oath of Allegiance for sure.

Re: Poll: Distrust of Asian Americans is rising

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Post by bequanna »

naniwaduni wrote: post #11
anotheruser092 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where's the contradiction? If you assume that people answered honestly, it's very possible that remaining proportion of people who viewed Asian Americans negatively were more likely to express anti-Asian American racism and hate over the past year, instead of keeping quiet about their views. Furthermore, a lot of people are biased to skew their responses or lie due to social-desirability bias [1]. The responses are s…

> Furthermore, a lot of people are biased to skew their responses or lie due to social-desirability bias [1]. The responses are self-reported. It's highly plausible that many people said their opinion "stayed the same" while actually worsening. Not just that, people are also just biased to believe their previous opinions are consistent with their current opinions.

Ah, of course!

I always make sure my responses to anonymous surveys are as politically correct as possible. Ya know, just in case ;)

Re: Poll: Distrust of Asian Americans is rising

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Post by vannevar »

bequanna wrote: post #7
vannevar wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The concerning stats are on slides 32 and 33, showing that an increasing number of Americans believe Asian Americans are more loyal to their country of origin, and that Asian Americans contributed to COVID-19. Unlike some of the other stats, this one isn't broken down by party. But I would bet that almost all of this increase was among Republicans. Slide 19 provides some support for this, as conservatives were more t…

Look again. Their very own data doesn’t support your attempt to blame those darned racist conservatives. The parent comment link allows you to view responses by political affiliation and answers by conservatives skew greatly to a more “positive” view of Asian Americans over the past 12 months. Just a reminder to check your biases. Everything you don’t like isn’t caused by the other political party.

> Just a reminder to check your biases. Everything you don’t like isn’t caused by the other political party.

You are correct. If I'd made the bet, I would have lost because the underlying data shows most of the increase in agreement on these two questions was among Democrats. (For those looking for the breakdown of the data, the first page has a dropdown with all of the questions and an option to filter by party affiliation.) Though the Democrats response on the COVID question add up to 102% for some reason, it doesn't materially change the result.

Re: Poll: Distrust of Asian Americans is rising

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Post by tablespoon »

niemandhier wrote: post #23
vehemenz wrote: post #5

Insofar as minorities seek greater legal representation and rights, "Asian American" makes perfect sense as a political identity. If you're Burmese, why not throw in with Thai and Chinese Americans? However, I'm unsure if anything tangible can be discerned about Americans' attitudes toward "Asian Americans." There are simply too many cultures represented that share not enough in common. Even "Hispanics" (a vexing, in…

I recently learned that Americans group people from the Indian subcontinent under the category 'Asian'. I am therefore apparently an Asian, something that never occurred to me.

> I recently learned that Americans group people from the Indian subcontinent under the category 'Asian'.

IIRC, in the UK, "Asian" is understood as South Asian by default, not as East Asian in the US.

Re: Poll: Distrust of Asian Americans is rising

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Post by cafard »

mc32 wrote: post #8

I wonder what the poll would look like if you interviewed Taiwanese-Americans and Taiwanese living in America about their views of Chinese mainlanders. Also, would be interesting to see a similar poll about Russians from Americans in general and Ukrainian-Americans. Members at large of aggressor groups will be stereotyped, that's how humans work everywhere. Go to South Africa and interview locals about people from "u…

> Members at large of aggressor groups

The people who were born in the same town as I was, who speak undifferentiable standard US English, send their kids to local schools, etc.?

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