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Fishing gear accounts for an alarming amount of plastic in oceans (2021)

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Re: Fishing gear accounts for an alarming amount of plastic in oceans (2021)

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What about boats with fiberglass hulls?

Hulls of boats generally don't just go missing or left behind. And, the fiberglass doesn't cause as much damage as high surface area fishing nets. I remember reading that the paint can be an issue though, as there are added particles to get the aesthetic glimmer that will get into the water over time

Anti-fouling paints applied to hulls contain organometallic chemicals that are, by design, toxic to marine life. This is to prevent algae and molusk to attach to the hull, slowing the boat over time and requiring extensive cleanup. You can imagine the effect these paints have when they chip off.

Re: Fishing gear accounts for an alarming amount of plastic in oceans (2021)

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It is so obvious, and has been known for years, yet the EU banned plastic straws because of the waste in the oceans, so now every drink tastes like a schoolbook. Well done EU...

if there were a post with "Single use plastics account for an alarming amount of plastics in the oceans" would you think otherwise? both are a problem. the industrial fishing nets degrade slower, the microplastics (that then likely bioaccumulates) comes from all sources.

The data the plastic straw bans were based on was entirely made up by a 9 year old[1][2][3] for a school report.

Entirely made up, based on nothing. Yet... here we are with plastic straw and bag bans...

Let's think about that for a minute while we contemplate all of the similar "data driven" bans we endure.

[1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/07/18/anti-straw-mo...

[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/19/business/plastic-straws-b...

[3] https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-no-evidenc...

Re: Fishing gear accounts for an alarming amount of plastic in oceans (2021)

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It is 50,000 tons per year. In plastic recycling terms, not that much volume. A very large plastic recycling facility can do about 200,000 tons in a year. http://intelligentliving.co/worlds-largest-climate-neutral-p... A tractor trailer hauls roughly 20 tons - so all the sea nets in the world in a year could be hauled by 2,500 trailers. Not that much in the scheme of things.

Maybe you missed the part where it's IN THE OCEAN.

floating recycling center then. Believe there's a video somewhere of one in the Charles River or something.

Re: Fishing gear accounts for an alarming amount of plastic in oceans (2021)

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To place this in context, it's 50,000 tons/year of fishing waste, versus 200,000 tons/year of microplastics from car tires: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jul/14/car-tyre... Further, microplastics enter the ecosystem far easier than the bulky big plastic from fishing gear, so the tire microplastics should be far more concerning to people. It's really weird how cars get a pass for so much. Try to live a…

Do you need recommendations on places in the US you can work in tech without a car and still enjoy the community? Because I can speak from many years of experience, it's not a difficult life to setup for yourself.

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Re: Fishing gear accounts for an alarming amount of plastic in oceans (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hulls of boats generally don't just go missing or left behind. And, the fiberglass doesn't cause as much damage as high surface area fishing nets. I remember reading that the paint can be an issue though, as there are added particles to get the aesthetic glimmer that will get into the water over time

Anti-fouling paints applied to hulls contain organometallic chemicals that are, by design, toxic to marine life. This is to prevent algae and molusk to attach to the hull, slowing the boat over time and requiring extensive cleanup. You can imagine the effect these paints have when they chip off.

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Re: Fishing gear accounts for an alarming amount of plastic in oceans (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

if there were a post with "Single use plastics account for an alarming amount of plastics in the oceans" would you think otherwise? both are a problem. the industrial fishing nets degrade slower, the microplastics (that then likely bioaccumulates) comes from all sources.

The data the plastic straw bans were based on was entirely made up by a 9 year old[1][2][3] for a school report. Entirely made up, based on nothing. Yet... here we are with plastic straw and bag bans... Let's think about that for a minute while we contemplate all of the similar "data driven" bans we endure. [1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/07/18/anti-straw-mo... [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/19/busi…

Wait, the article you linked said he called manufacturers to get a range of daily production/market estimates of straw production. Hardly seems fair to say based on "nothing".

Re: Fishing gear accounts for an alarming amount of plastic in oceans (2021)

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To place this in context, it's 50,000 tons/year of fishing waste, versus 200,000 tons/year of microplastics from car tires: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jul/14/car-tyre... Further, microplastics enter the ecosystem far easier than the bulky big plastic from fishing gear, so the tire microplastics should be far more concerning to people. It's really weird how cars get a pass for so much. Try to live a…

I'm not sure if it was your intent, but that comparison makes the fishing output seem even more outsized to me, given the size of the auto industry.

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Re: Fishing gear accounts for an alarming amount of plastic in oceans (2021)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The data the plastic straw bans were based on was entirely made up by a 9 year old[1][2][3] for a school report. Entirely made up, based on nothing. Yet... here we are with plastic straw and bag bans... Let's think about that for a minute while we contemplate all of the similar "data driven" bans we endure. [1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/07/18/anti-straw-mo... [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/19/busi…

Wait, the article you linked said he called manufacturers to get a range of daily production/market estimates of straw production. Hardly seems fair to say based on "nothing".

The kid estimated every American (all ~325 million) used nearly 2 straws per day. It's just such an absurdly unrealistic number.

I don't know how we can accept he conducted actual investigative research at the age of 9, particularly when the data is so wildly off from reality, no records were kept, and he can't even name some of the companies he supposedly based his "data" off of.

So yes... entirely made up.

Re: Fishing gear accounts for an alarming amount of plastic in oceans (2021)

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To place this in context, it's 50,000 tons/year of fishing waste, versus 200,000 tons/year of microplastics from car tires: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jul/14/car-tyre... Further, microplastics enter the ecosystem far easier than the bulky big plastic from fishing gear, so the tire microplastics should be far more concerning to people. It's really weird how cars get a pass for so much. Try to live a…

Do you need recommendations on places in the US you can work in tech without a car and still enjoy the community? Because I can speak from many years of experience, it's not a difficult life to setup for yourself.

I'd love to hear these recommendations. I know you thrive without a car in New York and Boston, but I would love to hear about other places like that in the US.
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