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A media-fueled social panic over unmarked graves

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Re: A media-fueled social panic over unmarked graves

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Post by vkou »

hbn wrote: post #9
thepasswordis wrote: post #2

It’s crazy how when a lie takes hold, it just stays forever. Another is relayed to January 6th protests. A friend today, a conservative DeSantis supporter, told me that he knew that on January 6th, the protestors killed several police officers. This is, as we know now, absolutely false. It was based on a rumor, and once the reporting caught up, it turned out to be false. Similarly I’m sure there will be Canadians who…

Ask around and be horrified as to how many people confidently think Kyle Rittenhouse shot one or more people who were 1. unarmed 2. black (edit: I see now someone made the above point a few minutes before i finished typing my message, but I suppose that goes to show how widespread this myth is) Conservatives get the brunt of blame for "conspiracy theories" and "disinformation" these days, and while I won't deny it do…

What's really horrifying is how many people seem unaware that the people he shot were under the impression that they were trying to stop an active shooter. You know, do that good-guy-with-a-gun thing, while acting on initially (but not eventually) incorrect information.

It's quite likely that if he were the one gunned down, and not the other way around, the people who did so would have walked, too.

Re: A media-fueled social panic over unmarked graves

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Post by Cupertino95014 »

bloaf wrote: post #28
thepasswordis wrote: post #2

It’s crazy how when a lie takes hold, it just stays forever. Another is relayed to January 6th protests. A friend today, a conservative DeSantis supporter, told me that he knew that on January 6th, the protestors killed several police officers. This is, as we know now, absolutely false. It was based on a rumor, and once the reporting caught up, it turned out to be false. Similarly I’m sure there will be Canadians who…

Quillette is cynically using the exact same "social-panic" tactics they're criticizing to create exactly your conclusion. The Q article has exactly two complaints about the facts reported by the media: 1. The media claimed bodies were unearthed, when in fact only scans were taken. 2. The media claimed there were mass graves, when in fact scans only detected masses of individual graves. However, in "social-panic" styl…

> The media claimed bodies were unearthed

This is not a "quibble." It's a major falsehood.

Re: A media-fueled social panic over unmarked graves

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Post by pyuser583 »

hprotagonist wrote: post #3

Suppose one reads a story of filthy atrocities in the paper. Then suppose that something turns up suggesting that the story might not be quite true, or not quite so bad as it was made out. Is one's first feeling, 'Thank God, even they aren't quite so bad as that,' or is it a feeling of disappointment, and even a determination to cling to the first story for the sheer pleasure of thinking your enemies are as bad as po…

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Re: A media-fueled social panic over unmarked graves

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Post by smeej »

bloaf wrote: post #28
thepasswordis wrote: post #2

It’s crazy how when a lie takes hold, it just stays forever. Another is relayed to January 6th protests. A friend today, a conservative DeSantis supporter, told me that he knew that on January 6th, the protestors killed several police officers. This is, as we know now, absolutely false. It was based on a rumor, and once the reporting caught up, it turned out to be false. Similarly I’m sure there will be Canadians who…

Quillette is cynically using the exact same "social-panic" tactics they're criticizing to create exactly your conclusion. The Q article has exactly two complaints about the facts reported by the media: 1. The media claimed bodies were unearthed, when in fact only scans were taken. 2. The media claimed there were mass graves, when in fact scans only detected masses of individual graves. However, in "social-panic" styl…

The implication seemed (to me at least) to be that first nations people were not being afforded the same respect as their white counterparts would have been.

Re: A media-fueled social panic over unmarked graves

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Post by bloaf »

Cupertino95014 wrote: post #32
bloaf wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quillette is cynically using the exact same "social-panic" tactics they're criticizing to create exactly your conclusion. The Q article has exactly two complaints about the facts reported by the media: 1. The media claimed bodies were unearthed, when in fact only scans were taken. 2. The media claimed there were mass graves, when in fact scans only detected masses of individual graves. However, in "social-panic" styl…

> The media claimed bodies were unearthed This is not a "quibble." It's a major falsehood.

Unearth can be used in a literal sense, which in this case is false.

It can also be used in a figurative sense, which in this case is almost certainly true.

Re: A media-fueled social panic over unmarked graves

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Post by pyuser583 »

It’s funny because the narrative works just fine without the mass graves.

A local paper (in the US) interviewed survivors/graduates on “Indian” schools. The administrators sent kids home as soon as they were sick.

So there were no graveyards, even when lots of student were dying (Spanish flu).

Re: A media-fueled social panic over unmarked graves

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Post by AinderS »

bloaf wrote: post #28
thepasswordis wrote: post #2

It’s crazy how when a lie takes hold, it just stays forever. Another is relayed to January 6th protests. A friend today, a conservative DeSantis supporter, told me that he knew that on January 6th, the protestors killed several police officers. This is, as we know now, absolutely false. It was based on a rumor, and once the reporting caught up, it turned out to be false. Similarly I’m sure there will be Canadians who…

Quillette is cynically using the exact same "social-panic" tactics they're criticizing to create exactly your conclusion. The Q article has exactly two complaints about the facts reported by the media: 1. The media claimed bodies were unearthed, when in fact only scans were taken. 2. The media claimed there were mass graves, when in fact scans only detected masses of individual graves. However, in "social-panic" styl…

> scans only detected masses of individual graves.

Possible graves. How many were unambiguously confirmed? And how many would we expect from normal high-at-the-time child mortality?

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