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Handshake – Decentralized naming and certificate authority

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Re: Handshake – Decentralized naming and certificate authority

#31

> Handshake uses proof-of-work mining Uh, no thanks. If you insist on using a blockchain at least don't make it proof-of-work. It's 2022, and there are plenty of production-ready non-PoW chains out there already. Please stop killing the planet.

If I remember correctly, Handshake came into life somewhere around 2016, and was forked from Bitcoin, hence the reliance on PoW. Seems unlikely to change at this point.

If you'd rather want to use something with PoS, then Ethereum Name Service (https://ens.domains/) is probably your best bet as Ethereum is moving to PoS shortly and is a widely used chain.

Re: Handshake – Decentralized naming and certificate authority

#32
post #29

> Handshake uses proof-of-work mining Uh, no thanks. If you insist on using a blockchain at least don't make it proof-of-work. It's 2022, and there are plenty of production-ready non-PoW chains out there already. Please stop killing the planet.

> It's 2022, and there are plenty of production-ready non-PoW chains out there already. Yeah. Like Solana, Polygon, Helium, Celo, etc? Which they went down. Why would something that operates like a CA, DNS or TLDs be suitable on those 'production-ready' chains? PoW makes sense for this use case. > Please stop killing the planet. I agree. I'd rather have something useful burning the planet and is an improvement than s…

> So perhaps we also should look at stopping running broken machine learning / deep learning models continuously on many data centers for 10+ years which that is also incinerating the planet.

That's Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Re: Handshake – Decentralized naming and certificate authority

#33
post #29

> Handshake uses proof-of-work mining Uh, no thanks. If you insist on using a blockchain at least don't make it proof-of-work. It's 2022, and there are plenty of production-ready non-PoW chains out there already. Please stop killing the planet.

> It's 2022, and there are plenty of production-ready non-PoW chains out there already. Yeah. Like Solana, Polygon, Helium, Celo, etc? Which they went down. Why would something that operates like a CA, DNS or TLDs be suitable on those 'production-ready' chains? PoW makes sense for this use case. > Please stop killing the planet. I agree. I'd rather have something useful burning the planet and is an improvement than s…

> Yeah. Like Solana, Polygon, Helium, Celo, etc? Which they went down

I do know Solana has had downtime and Celo not even being a cryptocurrency but something centralized, but when did Polygon have any downtime? I have some automation happening over the Polygon network and never encountered any downtime, when did this happen?

Re: Handshake – Decentralized naming and certificate authority

#34

> Handshake uses proof-of-work mining Uh, no thanks. If you insist on using a blockchain at least don't make it proof-of-work. It's 2022, and there are plenty of production-ready non-PoW chains out there already. Please stop killing the planet.

Indeed. Proof-of-work is the "what if we put some CFCs in our leaded petrol" level of technological disaster generation.

Re: Handshake – Decentralized naming and certificate authority

#35
post #9

The problem they'll have is more and more TLDs are colluding with ICANN's, and Handshake chose to sell "TLDs", plus it is a proof of work blockchain. Dappy has a .d scoping at the top to avoid collisions, POS blockchain behind it, a co-resolution system (IP addresses and root certificates are always co-resolved), and it allows multi-ownership of names. Worth checking out https://dappy.tech/

You are missing a disclosure: "Disclosure: I'm the CEO/CTO of the project I am advertising"

Re: Handshake – Decentralized naming and certificate authority

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is very unfair to namecheap: 1. The search bar on their homepage returns no handbrake results 2. To get to those results in the first place you have to click on a 'Handbrake' tab (leaving the 'Domains' tab) 3. The search results link to an info page that clearly states "It's also important to note that handshake domains do not resolve in regular browsers without additional setup." For the record, I think Handbra…

> The search bar on their homepage returns no handbrake results That's sadly not correct. https://www.namecheap.com/domains/registration/results/?doma... For example using "beast mode" on the front page search, a good portion of the domains are "handshake" entries with only a tiny little (i) button to distinguish them from actual domain names which could be used in the real world. I can add them to my cart with no ot…

> For example using "beast mode" on the front page search, a good portion of the domains are "handshake" entries with only a tiny little (i) button to distinguish them from actual domain names which could be used in the real world.

I also see a "pill" / "tab" that says "Handshake" and hovering the "tiny little (i)" kindly informs you what Handshake means.

https://i.imgur.com/kr0465o.png

Do you not see the same design as me maybe?

Re: Handshake – Decentralized naming and certificate authority

#37
A very similarly named startup that seeks to help college students find their first opportunities

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/handshake-2

Meanwhile, the claims on this website:

> Email became Gmail, usenet became reddit, blog replies became facebook and Medium, pingbacks became twitter, squid became Cloudflare, even gnutella became The Pirate Bay

While not even accurate, these centralized services became popular and synonymous with their underlyings due to convenience and benefits (eg gmail offering massive storage when it first rolled out; FB deploying its newsfeed which other social media platforms didn’t have at the time; etc)

> True decentralization, no official singular Foundation, Committee, Corporation, or entities in permanent unitary control of the protocol.

And what happens when something inevitably goes wrong without any kind of oversight? Who can course-correct if it has succumbed to say a 51% attack

> Economic incentives enable decentralized agreements to form via a transparent name auction process.

And so beholden to the same hyperfinancialization principles we see now—bid higher to get your blocks mined quicker. Not to mention the 700% spike in fees we saw not long ago.

Add in proof of work and you’ve now got potentially very long waiting times as well, further incentivizing the pay for speed mentality

Re: Handshake – Decentralized naming and certificate authority

#38
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's 2022, and there are plenty of production-ready non-PoW chains out there already. Yeah. Like Solana, Polygon, Helium, Celo, etc? Which they went down. Why would something that operates like a CA, DNS or TLDs be suitable on those 'production-ready' chains? PoW makes sense for this use case. > Please stop killing the planet. I agree. I'd rather have something useful burning the planet and is an improvement than s…

> So perhaps we also should look at stopping running broken machine learning / deep learning models continuously on many data centers for 10+ years which that is also incinerating the planet. That's Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

No it isn't. I already agreed that PoW is burning up the planet especially with the uselessness of blockchains like Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin Gold, Dogecoin, that don't improve on the current system when used and thus have no use case. So that isn't 'whataboutism'.

Nice try though.

Re: Handshake – Decentralized naming and certificate authority

#39
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's 2022, and there are plenty of production-ready non-PoW chains out there already. Yeah. Like Solana, Polygon, Helium, Celo, etc? Which they went down. Why would something that operates like a CA, DNS or TLDs be suitable on those 'production-ready' chains? PoW makes sense for this use case. > Please stop killing the planet. I agree. I'd rather have something useful burning the planet and is an improvement than s…

> So perhaps we also should look at stopping running broken machine learning / deep learning models continuously on many data centers for 10+ years which that is also incinerating the planet. That's Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

That's a Nonargument https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nonargument .

Giving examples of technologies that can also be considered "a waste of energy" is a valid argument. Why is using energy playing graphics intensive games with high-end graphics cards not considered a "waste of energy"? It's a value judgment that lacks perspective. Dismissing some technology for its energy usage without providing a better alternative with similar or better properties is nescient.

Some people at least try to provide "alternatives", but they don't have better properties or completely ignore what the technology was even trying to accomplish.

Re: Handshake – Decentralized naming and certificate authority

#40
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's 2022, and there are plenty of production-ready non-PoW chains out there already. Yeah. Like Solana, Polygon, Helium, Celo, etc? Which they went down. Why would something that operates like a CA, DNS or TLDs be suitable on those 'production-ready' chains? PoW makes sense for this use case. > Please stop killing the planet. I agree. I'd rather have something useful burning the planet and is an improvement than s…

> Yeah. Like Solana, Polygon, Helium, Celo, etc? Which they went down I do know Solana has had downtime and Celo not even being a cryptocurrency but something centralized, but when did Polygon have any downtime? I have some automation happening over the Polygon network and never encountered any downtime, when did this happen?

> but when did Polygon have any downtime?

It happened recently this year. [0]

[0] https://cryptoslate.com/polygon-matic-suffers-network-outage...

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