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Re: Spf13 is leaving Google

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Post by xcambar »

mupuff1234 wrote: post #10
DrinkWater wrote: post #8

> You may know me from building the Go Language, Docker, MongoDB, Hugo, Cobra, Drupal and spf13-vim Actually this is the first time i heard from this guy, but this is an impressive list of projects to be involved in, wow!

Am I the only one who finds that type of phrasing distasteful? I'm sure he didn't build any of those alone, and as a "leader" and a product person he probably didn't do much of the "building". Seems like he was mostly in an advisory role for Drupal, Docker and MongoDB, he didn't exactly build them.

This specific, quoted, phrase doesn't bother memuch, but I agree that reading the whole article gave me, from top to bottom, a sour taste of personal branding and developer marketing that really doesn't sell it (to me).

Re: Spf13 is leaving Google

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Post by tony »

mupuff1234 wrote: post #10
DrinkWater wrote: post #8

> You may know me from building the Go Language, Docker, MongoDB, Hugo, Cobra, Drupal and spf13-vim Actually this is the first time i heard from this guy, but this is an impressive list of projects to be involved in, wow!

Am I the only one who finds that type of phrasing distasteful? I'm sure he didn't build any of those alone, and as a "leader" and a product person he probably didn't do much of the "building". Seems like he was mostly in an advisory role for Drupal, Docker and MongoDB, he didn't exactly build them.

I contribute to open source projects as well - in various capacities - and it's fine for a maintainer of a huge project to use that wording.

He pushed hugo and viper in 2013-2014: https://github.com/gohugoio/hugo/commits/v0.7, viper: https://github.com/spf13/viper/commit/98be071

Steve is a very accomplished programmer, with what hugo / viper became in the go ecosystem by itself. In my view, the projects also jumpstarted a lot of new users who were trying out golang who weren't sold on it yet. I didn't really notice his leadership or advisory roles until now, that's just icing on the cake.

Thanks for your contributions, Steve!

Edit: If it's really big ecosystem, _indirect_ contributions also matter. e.g. in python, even if you're not writing CPython patches or PEPs, community based projects do a lot to shape best practices and even bubble up into standard library.

Re: Spf13 is leaving Google

#33

Post by seneca »

1-6 wrote: post #20
alecbz wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Afaik the last 3-4 are actually largely his personal projects that he probably built most of himself. But yeah, kinda agree for the other ones, the phrasing feels a little self-aggrandizing to my ear. Not sure how intentional it is though, that kind of phrasing I think sort just sneaks into the lexicon for some.

So basically a Googler, nonetheless.

Heh, as much as I hate painting with that wide of a brush it does seem accurate. Something about Google breeds hubris and self aggrandizement.

Re: Spf13 is leaving Google

#34

Post by singhrac »

podiki wrote: post #19

A bit off topic, but does anyone else find a data/financial company name "two sigma" to be...either troubling (how often two sigma events happen randomly and their lack of meaning beyond random fluctuation), or really on the nose?

A few more off-topic thoughts about this comment: (a) Two Sigma is an investment firm (a wrapper around a hedge fund), not really a financial company, (b) pretty much no one at Two Sigma is unaware of how often 2 sigma events happen, so I think neither? and (c) two sigma events can totally have meaning beyond random chance, in fact they're usually a leading indicator that there is some connection beyond luck :).

Re: Spf13 is leaving Google

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Post by ignoramous »

spf13 wrote: post #28
mupuff1234 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I the only one who finds that type of phrasing distasteful? I'm sure he didn't build any of those alone, and as a "leader" and a product person he probably didn't do much of the "building". Seems like he was mostly in an advisory role for Drupal, Docker and MongoDB, he didn't exactly build them.

I never intended this statement to be taken as if I built these alone. Thanks for this candid feedback. Perhaps a more accurate wording is: "You may know me from helping to build the Go Language, Docker, MongoDB, and Drupal & creating Hugo, Cobra and spf13-vim"

Helped building it or actually built it... Impressive just the same!

Congratulations on your new role. Two Sigma seems super-exciting.

Re: Spf13 is leaving Google

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Post by frob »

About 10 years ago, spf13-vim showed me what vim could be and changed my coding life forever. I finally ejected it and spun my own .vimrc a few years ago, but I wouldn't be where I am today without it.

Thanks a bunch!

Re: Spf13 is leaving Google

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Post by mountainriver »

akomtu wrote: post #11
DrinkWater wrote: post #8

> You may know me from building the Go Language, Docker, MongoDB, Hugo, Cobra, Drupal and spf13-vim Actually this is the first time i heard from this guy, but this is an impressive list of projects to be involved in, wow!

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Re: Spf13 is leaving Google

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Post by Karupan »

spf13 wrote: post #27
Karupan wrote: post #16

> I led the team that designed MongoDB’s pioneering user experience As someone who has used mongo, genuinely curious about which part of the user experience is being highlighted here. Thanks for all your work with the Go community and good luck with the new team!

I built and led the team that was responsible for the MongoDB user experience. We designed and built MongoDB's integrations with programming languages & third party systems (Drupal, Hadoop, Storm, Spark, etc). Our team wrote the MongoDB user manual too and we were responsible for the websites. My blog has a lot of talks / posts about the work our team did if you want to read up more about it.

Thanks, appreciate your response! Didn’t occur to me that you were talking about the UX for the entire ecosystem. Will read your blog for more details.

Re: Spf13 is leaving Google

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Post by MonkeyMalarky »

alecbz wrote: post #23
1-6 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So basically a Googler, nonetheless.

Have you found Googlers to be self-aggrandizing on average? That's not been my experience working there. (But might be different for "Googlers who talk a lot/are well-known publicly".)

From the outside peering in, the only Googlers are the ones who talk a lot or loudly leverage their ex-googler status on other projects.
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