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RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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All I see is people claiming RSS is dead, but I never stopped. Moving between various readers and landed on Feedly for iOS a few years ago. Love it.

One thing that's been corrosive to rss the past couple years have been podcast platforms. I find more podcasts (free ones) that can only be accessed through platforms like Google podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify, or Anchor, with no rss feed link to use in a platform agnostic podcatcher app.

Unfortunately, to Spotify's great delight, the word "podcast" has been successfully embraced, extended, and extinguished. Us technical types have been complicit in it by allowing the word "podcast" to mean audio shows on proprietary platforms that require proprietary players.

Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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I've been using Blogtrottr to email me my RSS feeds for whatever I'm following. It's run without any hiccups in I think over 10 years. I have tons of feeds just emailing me every day and I skim through them and read whatever I find interesting. It's really awesome, much better for me than anything else.

Yeah I also use a simple rss2email utility that I hacked together. Having feeds in my mailbox means I can search/filter and tag them appropriately.

A lot of these online feed-readers have terrible UIs for managing large numbers of feeds, but I guess they allow the same benefit of keeping track of state (read vs. unread) that email also offers.

Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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It's not dead, but many things I wish supported RSS don't. Facebook. Twitter. Instagram. These would be incredibly useful things to have native RSS feeds for, but instead I have to dig around and either use some tool someone built for the purpose - a tool at the mercy of the walled garden whose wall they're peeking over - or build my own nightmare factory.

You can use RSS for twitter via Nitter, it works perfectly for me.

> instead I have to dig around and either use some tool someone built for the purpose - a tool at the mercy of the walled garden whose wall they're peeking over

Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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RSS has been alive this whole time. Blogs usually have it by default, the big news organizations have it. The only thing I'm not satisfied with reading news on RSS, is that news organizations push too many articles, to the point that reading the headlines alone takes quite some time. There's nearly 100 articles per day per source sometimes. Unlike a newspaper, which has a natural structure of priority and hierarchy,…

Newsblur has a training feature [1], with a thumbs up/down on article tags, author, and keywords in a title that can bubble up more interesting articles or completely hide them.

Unfortunately training is per feed, there's a newer Premium Pro tier with global training coming out with it, but it is much more expensive [2].

1. https://www.newsblur.com/faq (under Intelligence section)

2. https://forum.newsblur.com/t/global-keyword-training/5419/6

Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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RSS is still the default distribution system for podcasts. It's probably the thin thread that is keeping Spotify from building a walled garden for audio.

Spotify is in fact intending to move away from RSS, as a means of creating a walled garden: https://techcrunch.com/2022/06/08/spotify-hypes-the-revenue-... > […] The company spent a good portion of its presentation specifically focused on podcasts, which it said had been “largely unchanged” for years before its entry into the market, due to the limitations of RSS. > Spotify cited how unbundling podcasts from RSS tech…

Spotify has never used RSS, other than for Roach Motel-style ingest.

The plan was to embrace, extend, and extinguish the podcasting medium, and the hard part of that is done. "Podcasting" was a standards-based, open medium. Now it's any audio show, and we've lost the unique name for the open medium. As Spotify incentivizes more and more creators to not publish an RSS feed, standards-based podcasting will become a fond memory.

Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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All I see is people claiming RSS is dead, but I never stopped. Moving between various readers and landed on Feedly for iOS a few years ago. Love it.

I dropped Feedly because I found that 90%+ of my feeds would only put the article title and the first sentence into the feed, then require I click the URL to pull up the full article. It wasn't very fun constantly having to switch between my RSS app and my browser, so I just stopped using it.

Yeah this really sucks. I think some do this for paywall reasons, but there are definitely models out there to allow in-reader paywall access. Stratechery has an interesting approach - when you subscribe you get a unique feed that can be cancelled when you stop paying.
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