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Re: Spam domains that plague my email

#31

Post by xmodem »

shapefrog wrote: post #24
inferiorhuman wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I self-hosted email I used Spamhaus to as a block list and Spam Assassin to filter the rest. Gmail users made up the biggest chunk of spam that got through but it was never from Google/Gmail domains, it was almost always from a Gmail user with a custom domain.

I wonder if SPF / DKIM / DMARC have improved this. Google domains doesnt make it quite as easy as other hosting providers, and to be honest if they were super serious about email abuse they should encourage every domain to use it.

There is a marketing company that is constantly adding me to new spammy lists they are creating. They are using AWS SES / SendGrid / other reputable providers.

The emails all pass SPF/DKIM/DMARC and filing abuse reports seems to get me taken off the list I complained about but I quickly get added to a different one.

I am this close to auto-blocking anything from these large providers and switching to allow-listing the legitimate domains that can send me e-mail.

Re: Spam domains that plague my email

#32

Post by XorNot »

xmodem wrote: post #31
shapefrog wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if SPF / DKIM / DMARC have improved this. Google domains doesnt make it quite as easy as other hosting providers, and to be honest if they were super serious about email abuse they should encourage every domain to use it.

There is a marketing company that is constantly adding me to new spammy lists they are creating. They are using AWS SES / SendGrid / other reputable providers. The emails all pass SPF/DKIM/DMARC and filing abuse reports seems to get me taken off the list I complained about but I quickly get added to a different one. I am this close to auto-blocking anything from these large providers and switching to allow-listing th…

Unfortunately Google doesn't let you filter on arbitrary headers, otherwise at this point I'd delete everything with a List-Unsubscribe header.

Re: Spam domains that plague my email

#34

Post by Ensorceled »

butz wrote: post #15

In theory one can set any domain to "from" field, what about actual servers that sent the spam? How many of those spam emails have unsubscribe and/or complaint headers?

The spam emails pretty much ALL have unsubcribe headers now. I mean, they are all WORSE than useless since they are sending signal back to spammers, but Gmail is asking me to [Unsubscribe and Report Spam] anyway.

Re: Spam domains that plague my email

#35

Post by xmodem »

XorNot wrote: post #32
xmodem wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a marketing company that is constantly adding me to new spammy lists they are creating. They are using AWS SES / SendGrid / other reputable providers. The emails all pass SPF/DKIM/DMARC and filing abuse reports seems to get me taken off the list I complained about but I quickly get added to a different one. I am this close to auto-blocking anything from these large providers and switching to allow-listing th…

Unfortunately Google doesn't let you filter on arbitrary headers, otherwise at this point I'd delete everything with a List-Unsubscribe header.

Hmm, it looks like you can do this with Apple's Mail client.

Re: Spam domains that plague my email

#36

Post by chmike »

inferiorhuman wrote: post #7
lwf wrote: post #4

Surprised to not see gmail.com in the list[1]. [1]: https://drewdevault.com/2021/02/25/Gmail-is-a-huge-source-of... , https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26265329

When I self-hosted email I used Spamhaus to as a block list and Spam Assassin to filter the rest. Gmail users made up the biggest chunk of spam that got through but it was never from Google/Gmail domains, it was almost always from a Gmail user with a custom domain.

Spammers use vpn nowadays. This make these spammhaus like services useless. They change IPs every week.

Most mail protection models against spam don't work.

I have an idea of a method that could help reduce spam and undesirable mails. It would be free for non-spammers and spammers would pay.

The problem is that I'm not sure if people would be ready to adopt it. There is also many different ways to execute, and I'm not sure which one to pick.

Re: Spam domains that plague my email

#38

Post by 2143 »

krageon wrote: post #21
2143 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Create a custom filter in Gmail to delete it; let it bypass the inbox and go straight to trash. (There's a "Filter messages like these" option somewhere)

Your fix is essentially "roll your own spam filter"

No. I'm just saying if there's an address you simply don't want to read mails from (for any reason), there's a way (among many ways) to do that.

Re: Spam domains that plague my email

#39

Post by egberts1 »

xmodem wrote: post #35
XorNot wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately Google doesn't let you filter on arbitrary headers, otherwise at this point I'd delete everything with a List-Unsubscribe header.

Hmm, it looks like you can do this with Apple's Mail client.

really?

edited:

yeah, add two rules to macOS Mail app:

* delete From: “info@twitter.com” rule

* delete From: “twitter” rule

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtB1OFNN4Ak

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