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World's oldest tree still growing near the Norwegian-Swedish border

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Re: World's oldest tree still growing near the Norwegian-Swedish border

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So equivalent to popular science for the US crowd. I'm curious, why 'cucumber' news? Just due to the harvest time of the plant, or is there some cultural significance to the term?

"Cucumber time" is the season, where news paper doesn't have anything to report on than cucumbers. http://www.worldwidewords.org/weirdwords/ww-cuc2.htm https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agurketid

In Dutch it is "komkommertijd" [0], which also literally translates to "cucumber time". It has the exact same meaning.

[0] https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komkommertijd

Re: World's oldest tree still growing near the Norwegian-Swedish border

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That title is rather clickbaity for a "science" magazine. Crucially, the tree prominently featured in the large picture is not 10,000 years old and only its root system originates from that period: > Today Old Tjikko’s tree trunk is only five metres high. Although the spruce may have had many such trunks over the millennia, the tree's root system has survived all these years. No part of today’s living tree is as old…

I thought Pandora is 80,000 years old. Where did you get 14,000?

From the URL I provided as source (Wikipedia)? On the "oldest trees" Wiki page it also says that there had been previous aging resulting with much older estimates, but these were invalidated by newer results with lower estimates.

Re: World's oldest tree still growing near the Norwegian-Swedish border

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Apparently it's from German around 1780, for the time during the summer when the cucumbers ripen, everyone is on vacation, and business is slow. That's what the Danish wikipedia entry says, at least. https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agurketid#Ophav https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silly_season#Other_names

We have the same expression in Dutch: "komkommertijd". The Dutch Wikipedia mentions English, German or Jiddisch as possible sources: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komkommertijd

Same in Polish "sezon ogórkowy"

Re: World's oldest tree still growing near the Norwegian-Swedish border

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That title is rather clickbaity for a "science" magazine. Crucially, the tree prominently featured in the large picture is not 10,000 years old and only its root system originates from that period: > Today Old Tjikko’s tree trunk is only five metres high. Although the spruce may have had many such trunks over the millennia, the tree's root system has survived all these years. No part of today’s living tree is as old…

Likely true: most cells in your body are younger than your age too.

Re: World's oldest tree still growing near the Norwegian-Swedish border

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Had to read this in reader mode because while the text of the article was in English, the cookie pop up was in what I’m guessing is Norwegian, and covered most of the space where the text is. Who does that?

Trolls, of course!

They will come and eat your cookie!

Re: World's oldest tree still growing near the Norwegian-Swedish border

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Aspen trees do this.

For anyone in areas with Aspen trees, they are a single organism since they spread via roots. That is why you see groves of Aspen trees that seem to be sharply delineated, it's all one tree. Biology is just fascinating/scary like this, but knowing this makes the experience of standing in an aspen grove during the height of summer even more powerful. It's all one connected organism thst has spread so far that you can'…

See also : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pando_(tree)

Re: World's oldest tree still growing near the Norwegian-Swedish border

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently it's from German around 1780, for the time during the summer when the cucumbers ripen, everyone is on vacation, and business is slow. That's what the Danish wikipedia entry says, at least. https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agurketid#Ophav https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silly_season#Other_names

Ah, so the US "dog-days of summer". Not going to lie, I prefer the silly-season nomenclature, it captures the lack of motivation and malaise that seems to set in during the height of summer much better. Thanks for the explanation, very interesting.

English "dog-days" is just a translation of Latin "caniculares dies", which came from the time of visibility before sunrise of the "Dog Star" a.k.a. Sirius.

Re: World's oldest tree still growing near the Norwegian-Swedish border

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Just to be clear, the tree is found in Dalarna in Sweden, though this is indeed East of Trysil in Norway. Since Sciencenorway.no (!) is a Norwegian outlet, they need to at least attempt to make their articles relevant for Norway. The outlet is the English version of Forskning.no. Forskning means research in Norwegian, but in this instance it really means science. Their focus is to bring news about what Norwegian scie…

In Spain it used to be serpientes de verano (summer snakes) but not sure if Loch Ness is still popular.
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