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Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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I agree with you but honestly if it was another person named Toyota who purchased toyota.com, they would definitely be pursued/sued by Toyota as well. Large Corporations are powerful and will do everything they can to get what they want. It just happens to be Nissan in this case. So I wouldn't treat them any different than the others to be honest.

>Large Corporations are powerful and will do everything they can to get what they want. Valve, despite controlling something like 80% of PC game sales, hasn't gone after the owner guy who owns steam.com

I'm not sure Valve would be considered "large corporation", at least at this point. Last time I checked, they had something like 300 employees. I'm not sure where the line would be for me to consider something a "large corporation", but at least 10000 would be my first guess.

Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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I'd be up to contribute some funds to have a $5 DO droplet serving the website for some time as well. I'll start by committing to one year of hosting ($60). I'll never buy a Nissan because of their actions against nissan.com, but somehow it doesn't always feel like enough.

Probably not even necessary to do that much. Point it at Cloudflare backed by an S3 bucket with a single "in memorandum" page and host it until the end of technology as we know it for ~$1.

I've learnt my lesson to depend as little as possible on vendors with specific technologies when you want to keep something alive for a long, long time. The less reliance on specific closed-source & cloud technologies, the better.

Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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>Large Corporations are powerful and will do everything they can to get what they want. Valve, despite controlling something like 80% of PC game sales, hasn't gone after the owner guy who owns steam.com

I'm not sure Valve would be considered "large corporation", at least at this point. Last time I checked, they had something like 300 employees. I'm not sure where the line would be for me to consider something a "large corporation", but at least 10000 would be my first guess.

I think billion dollar valuations would suffice to be "large corporation" to me. Valve meets that.

Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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Uzi battled Nissan motor company because the company thought they had the right to take the domain from a man who had registered it because it's his surname. Nissan Motors should have been slapped with a massive punitive fine for that, but instead they continued to bleed Mr. Uzi Nissan of his resources by suing him repeatedly. Memo to Nissan Motor Company: it was because of this act of lawfare that I personally renou…

fwiw, you are not the only person who avoided buying Nissan over this lawsuit. While they may never be able to see the impact their decisions have had on their bottom line, it is likely more than most people would guess.

Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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Uzi battled Nissan motor company because the company thought they had the right to take the domain from a man who had registered it because it's his surname. Nissan Motors should have been slapped with a massive punitive fine for that, but instead they continued to bleed Mr. Uzi Nissan of his resources by suing him repeatedly. Memo to Nissan Motor Company: it was because of this act of lawfare that I personally renou…

fwiw, you are not the only person who avoided buying Nissan over this lawsuit. While they may never be able to see the impact their decisions have had on their bottom line, it is likely more than most people would guess.

Sounds unlikely

Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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What's the next step?

Good question. We've talked to various lawyers throughout the years. The crappy part is that the people who resurrected it have hundreds of millions in real estate backed ventures (big $$$), so there's really not much we can do aside from pound sand considering we weren't brewing the beer, or enforcing the trademark. The even weirder thing is that they used his name as their contact email for the longest time on thei…

If every generation since your great great grandfather had 3 children, then you can expect your great great grandfather to have 81 descendants in your generation (most of whom would have a different surname - to a first approximation you only retain the surname if your connection to him is on the father's side at every level).

I'm guessing you wouldn't know all of them, and in the olden days people had more kids so it could easily be a lot higher than that. Isn't it possible that the people running the brewery are also great great grandchildren of your great great grandfather?

Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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I'm not sure Valve would be considered "large corporation", at least at this point. Last time I checked, they had something like 300 employees. I'm not sure where the line would be for me to consider something a "large corporation", but at least 10000 would be my first guess.

I think billion dollar valuations would suffice to be "large corporation" to me. Valve meets that.

Valve has to be worth way more than a billion dollars. A billion is like medium-stage startup at this point. They have to be worth 10x that easy, as a floor. Much higher (100x) for a strategic acquisition from a company like Microsoft.

Re: Uzi Nissan (nissan.com) died of covid July 2020 and the website is now down

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Uzi battled Nissan motor company because the company thought they had the right to take the domain from a man who had registered it because it's his surname. Nissan Motors should have been slapped with a massive punitive fine for that, but instead they continued to bleed Mr. Uzi Nissan of his resources by suing him repeatedly. Memo to Nissan Motor Company: it was because of this act of lawfare that I personally renou…

I agree with you but honestly if it was another person named Toyota who purchased toyota.com, they would definitely be pursued/sued by Toyota as well. Large Corporations are powerful and will do everything they can to get what they want. It just happens to be Nissan in this case. So I wouldn't treat them any different than the others to be honest.

not necessarily at all. A rational company would have offered a sum that to them was minuscule part of advertising budget, but a fortune for a single person.

My understanding was that Nissan hadn't even made an offer before suing him for 10M, at least that is how the story goes. They probably could have just offered him a million, or 10, and everyone is happy. Being they are a "large" corporation and all.

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