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Blacklist is not a racist word

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Re: Blacklist is not a racist word

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Still waiting for Mastercard to change their absolutely 'unacceptable', 'offensive' and somewhat 'oppressive' name.

If master card no longer offers credit cards, then any slave account could be discredited occurring with deactivated debit cards.

Re: Blacklist is not a racist word

#32

It's not, but insisting on using it even though there are perfectly fine alternatives and you know that there's a sizeable chunk of people that considers it racist is just being an asshole.

I'd say those people who suddenly make innocent common words "racist" are the assholes. They're extremely privileged and act like a totalitarian regime. What's scary is that they believe they're on the right side.

Re: Blacklist is not a racist word

#33

It's not, but insisting on using it even though there are perfectly fine alternatives and you know that there's a sizeable chunk of people that considers it racist is just being an asshole.

If you let the minority dictate your life it's gonna cause trouble. What if nazis start saying that they love "mainline" branch because it's meinline and that reminds them of Adolf. Ok lets remove mainline. Remember the whole ordeal with the "ok" hand sign? That's what happens when you let the minority control you, and that wasn't even a real case of racism.

> What if nazis start saying that they love "mainline" branch because it's meinline and that reminds them of Adolf. Ok lets remove mainline.

You see, the thing about culture is that it's rapidly evolving and not necessarily rational (which is perfectly fine). If the word "mainline" would become associated with nazis commonly enough, I'd definitely want to avoid its usage despite of there being nothing wrong it, just like I'm not going to use swastikas just because it's an ancient symbol of well-being. So no, "blacklist" isn't racist, but if we can reduce the ugly associations that our language may be implying, then insisting on not doing that surely doesn't present you in a good light.

Re: Blacklist is not a racist word

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It's not, but insisting on using it even though there are perfectly fine alternatives and you know that there's a sizeable chunk of people that considers it racist is just being an asshole.

I'd say those people who suddenly make innocent common words "racist" are the assholes. They're extremely privileged and act like a totalitarian regime. What's scary is that they believe they're on the right side.

> act like a totalitarian regime

That is dangerous overstatement.

Re: Blacklist is not a racist word

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> Some radical people have suddenly started to think blacklist and whitelist are racially insensitive. Are they really racist words? The answer is a no. In my books, these people aren't "radical", they're simply "wrong". Calling them "radical" gives the impression that being mindful about the language we choose to accept socially is in general radical. Of course it isn't.

From my own experience, the people declaring usual words and expressions racist tend to pride themselves as being "radical".

Re: Blacklist is not a racist word

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say those people who suddenly make innocent common words "racist" are the assholes. They're extremely privileged and act like a totalitarian regime. What's scary is that they believe they're on the right side.

> act like a totalitarian regime That is dangerous overstatement.

> That is dangerous overstatement.

That is a hyperbolic statement.

Re: Blacklist is not a racist word

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post #24

> Some radical people have suddenly started to think blacklist and whitelist are racially insensitive. Are they really racist words? The answer is a no. In my books, these people aren't "radical", they're simply "wrong". Calling them "radical" gives the impression that being mindful about the language we choose to accept socially is in general radical. Of course it isn't.

Talking about words and their meaning, "radical" comes from the latin for root, so a true radical should get to the bottom of things, work from first principles... Let's have a go! It is dark at night, and black is dark. The one thing that's clear is "white" human skin ain't white, and "black" ain't black either. So... saying black or white to categorize any member of the human race is incorrect, using "blacklist" fo…

I'm actually incredibly fascinated by this tortured comment.

In a comment advocating for getting to the bottom of things and first principles of "words and their meanings" of all things (whatever that means here, I don't know), you:

a) misinterpret what any current usage of radical would mean b) proceed to, from what I presume your idea of presume principles is, chain together a half hearted series of arbitrary connections c) continue to skip over any well understood meaning of whiee and black in the context of race for not being literal enough? d) but conclude that a very unusual, uncommon, tenuous metaphors about blacklists being for blocking light being more correct somehow?

There's just so much going on in such a short comment. I really hope it was on purpose, it's Terry Pratchett-esq.

Like isn't black a literal color first and foremost before being an allusion to darkness and light? Even if it's not the precise color, isn't that ... closer via whatever your first principles are here?

Re: Blacklist is not a racist word

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It's not, but insisting on using it even though there are perfectly fine alternatives and you know that there's a sizeable chunk of people that considers it racist is just being an asshole.

...A "sizeable chunk of people" consider the word 'blacklist' racist?

What's this "sizeable chunk"? Where do these people congregate?

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