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Amazon bows to UAE pressure to restrict LGBT search results

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Re: Amazon bows to UAE pressure to restrict LGBT search results

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Post by boeingUH60 »

sweetheart wrote: post #26
boeingUH60 wrote: post #18

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Do they sleep well at night? Why not... Do they feel good about themselves?...They don't have to do that...I bet most people don't even feel "good" about their corporate jobs. Basically, Amazon had two options; Tell the UAE to pound sand and risk being kicked out of the country or cave in to their demands. Should we really expect another response from a soul-less, union-busting corporate overlord company like Amazon?

Yes, I expect Amazon to stand up against their demands and tell them to go pound sand. Im not naive; I know they won’t. But I can still be disgusted that they won’t.

We peacefully disagree then. I don't expect a company that treats their warehouse workers like s*t to all of a sudden find a moral cause and stand on it, especially when that company has continually shown that it cares about money above all.

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boeingUH60 wrote: post #31
sweetheart wrote: post #26

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Yes, I expect Amazon to stand up against their demands and tell them to go pound sand. Im not naive; I know they won’t. But I can still be disgusted that they won’t.

We peacefully disagree then. I don't expect a company that treats their warehouse workers like s*t to all of a sudden find a moral cause and stand on it, especially when that company has continually shown that it cares about money above all.

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Re: Amazon bows to UAE pressure to restrict LGBT search results

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Post by 4gotunameagain »

benreesman wrote: post #27
sweetheart wrote: post #4

Is there any argument here in Amazon’s defense? Or is my initial disgust at Amazon truly the appropriate response. I cannot fathom being the person at Amazon who makes that call. Do they sleep well at night? Do they feel good about themselves?

You can call it a “defense” or not as you like. People and organizations have been putting money ahead of enlightened ideals as long as there’s been money or ideals. I’m not trying to let Amazon off the hook here per se, but a cursory reading of history shows that such calls are on average, basically everyone ever. We venerate King and Milk and Ghandi and others because they stand out . This is business as usual not…

Enlightened ideals were the suffragettes. Was the abolition of slavery.

Don't you think calling this LGBT craze an enlightened ideal is a bit overselling it ?

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

ominous wrote: post #25
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I do not defend that LGBTQ should be executed, and nothing I said implies it. I asked for the attack that one would make against Amazon. And you don't even dare to state that, yes, your worldview excludes UAE ahahahah should they be fixed? > Because that is the world-view of the UAE.

> your worldview excludes UAE ahahahah should they be fixed?

They shouldn’t be supported in this aspect. The same way we get mad at our companies when they bribe foreign officials or take part in genocide or facilitate sex trafficking or pedophilia. Some things are plain wrong, and it’s not okay for our people and companies to be doing it anywhere.

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Post by HatchedLake721 »

wesleywt wrote: post #7
ominous wrote: post #6

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> Is there any argument here in Amazon’s defense? Can you phrase the attack you imagine they need defense from in a way that doesn't assume your worldview is the universal position (or that tries to achieve a universal position) everyone must adhere to?

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

lentil_soup wrote: post #14
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They are probably sleeping in a 14 room mansion in an ultra king size bed being rubbed to sleep by three prostitutes. So yeah, they’re probably sleeping well. But you expect anything different from a corporation? Their only purpose is to make profit. It’s just basic economics. They don’t care about politics or LGBTQ, they care about money. The only reason they ever seem to care about LGBTQ is because they saw the gro…

sure, it's a corporation but in the end a bunch of people have to make the call and implement these filters. My guess is the blame gets dilluted and people are really good at rationalising their work by hiding behind the corporation image, or "someone else will do it anyway", or "yeah, but look at what happens in X", etc

> sure, it's a corporation but in the end a bunch of people have to make the call and implement these filters.

Yes, people who work at the corporation, the people who will be fired from the corporation if they do not comply. Everyone who works at the Amazon earns money from the profit they make and they will pay the most to people who will make these sociopathic choices.

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Post by sgift »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #33
benreesman wrote: post #27

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You can call it a “defense” or not as you like. People and organizations have been putting money ahead of enlightened ideals as long as there’s been money or ideals. I’m not trying to let Amazon off the hook here per se, but a cursory reading of history shows that such calls are on average, basically everyone ever. We venerate King and Milk and Ghandi and others because they stand out . This is business as usual not…

Enlightened ideals were the suffragettes. Was the abolition of slavery. Don't you think calling this LGBT craze an enlightened ideal is a bit overselling it ?

No. Also: Suffragettes and abolition of slavery were both called crazy in their time.

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Post by Joeboy »

klez wrote: post #3

I'm a bit confused by the fact that they're talking about UAE and then they suddenly switch to talking about non-Amazon related events in Saudi Arabia.

Maybe the author sees crackdowns on LGBT stuff in SA as related to crackdowns on LGBT stuff in UAE, and therefore thought it reasonable to mention them in the same article.

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Post by sgift »

HatchedLake721 wrote: post #35
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> Should the whole world now turn their backs on the USA because of recent Roe v Wade overturn which most of the world sees as step backwards, that abolishes women rights, endangers their lives and criminalises what's is acceptable pretty much everywhere else?

Yes, they should. Will they? Probably not, but these are two different things.

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