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My offer to Google Reader
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Re: My offer to Google Reader
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
I notice your account is ten minutes old. Is this an astroturf? A PR troll? ...Can you really tell me it got easier to share now that it's G+ and not Reader? One man's "community [they were] already involved in" is another man's "disconnected community." Speak for yourself I had a carefully cultivated list of cranks, miscreants, and technologic misanthropes who found some very interesting content and had some very in…
I generally only lurk and don't really comment unless there is something that really annoys me. Not a PR troll, just a Reader user that isn't picking up a pitchfork and joining the angry mobs over something I've wanted changed since G+ was released. I can see how removing the social features upsets readers, but they mentioned them before they were going to do it and allow you to move your data out if it no longer sui…
that's fine, but your "only comment unless something really annoys you" is disingenuous -- this is the only thing that has annoyed you enough to comment on.
I'm sorry if my reaction seemed a little strong; you mentioned not being able to understand the sentiments you were hearing. I am suggesting that as my tiny online community vanished overnight, perhaps you could empathize with that and extend that to the other incomprehensible sentiments you were hearing.
I, for one, have resisted any sort of move towards pitchforks or torches or even (gasp) public condemnation, because I acknowledge that this is, indeed, how google operates, and also that as a user of a "free" service, that this is its actual cost. And i do still hope that the aspects of Reader that fostered such a good community can be rediscovered in G+; it's bugged me since G+ launched that the integration with things like Reader was poor.
And it may yet improve along those lines! -- Doesn't make me any less sad about the loss of my community, though...
(Likewise, you might not have used "Notes", but they could be both public or private, serving as both a vehicle for discussion or a bookmark-service for research, archiving, etc, a la pinboard or delicious. Again -- maybe not a feature that you used, but one that people who did use now need to replace.)
Re: My offer to Google Reader
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#34Dear God in Heaven please let them take him up on it. Now that I'm a few days into the new redesign my workflow has become 1. Read RSS feeds. 2. Research RSS feed readers.
Me too, I am definitely in the market for a new RSS reader now.
I couldn't take it anymore. After living for a while with the Element Hiding Helper for Adblock Plus, which allowed me to simply hide some of the stupid white space, this last change made Reader essentially unusable.
Today I switched to Bloglines, and I can keep using j, k, etc.
I have to thank Google, however, for making my switch so easy with their export utility...
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Re: My offer to Google Reader
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
I notice your account is ten minutes old. Is this an astroturf? A PR troll? ...Can you really tell me it got easier to share now that it's G+ and not Reader? One man's "community [they were] already involved in" is another man's "disconnected community." Speak for yourself I had a carefully cultivated list of cranks, miscreants, and technologic misanthropes who found some very interesting content and had some very in…
I notice your account is ten minutes old. Is this an astroturf? A PR troll? Don't be rude. Dissing people for having newish accounts breaks the guidelines. ...Can you really tell me it got easier to share now that it's G+ and not Reader? Yes. It works fine for a lot of people, and observing this does not invalidate your complaints.
Very well. I thought it was suspicious and called it out as such, but I thought i had done it in a reasonable way. My mistake. He's since replied to me and i believe i've replied to him in (what i hope is) a civil manner below.
Yes. It works fine for a lot of people, and observing this does not invalidate your complaints.
Can you tell me about this? Previously, i had one-click share within Reader, and two click sharing from the web via a bookmarklet. I am genuinely curious about how this got easier with the new Reader.
What's your workflow now to share an article with a carefully curated group of friends?
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#37Wow this is a bit naive and egotistical. I HATE the new google reader but to think that it takes ONE man outside of Google to fix their product is downright silly. The redesign was made in the context of Google's near-future plans to ignore that is ridiculous. A more constructive move is to provide a short checklist of things to re-consider or build/recommend a competing product. Its not like Google cant improve it m…
> to think that it takes ONE man outside of Google to fix their product is downright silly.
He spent 5 years at Google, including being the lead designer on the Google Reader project. It's not like he's some schmuck out of nowhere, and I don't think he asked to be a one-man team.
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#38For me the only problem with the new Reader is that too much space is wasted on the header thing and controls at the top. Before the redesign my articles would come up to almost the top of the browser window, now the top is uncomfortably low on my screen. I love everything else from the redesign, it's cleaner and generally takes up less space but the design should be more about the content and less about Reader.
I have made a stupid bookmarklet to hide the 140px of header that i don't usually use. I have called this GoReader: http://www.searcheeze.com/it/p/free.musik/bookmarklets
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#39For me the only problem with the new Reader is that too much space is wasted on the header thing and controls at the top. Before the redesign my articles would come up to almost the top of the browser window, now the top is uncomfortably low on my screen. I love everything else from the redesign, it's cleaner and generally takes up less space but the design should be more about the content and less about Reader.
Press 'f' to hide the controls.
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#40Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't really understand the huge community backlash to the Reader rework. I spend hours in reader every day, and it wasn't until they added in G+ that it actually became easy to share.The addition made it so I could share within a community I was already involved in rather then a few people in some disconnected Reader community. From my perspective they actually removed the useless…
I want a share-to-G+ that does not involve a public +1. And I want G+ to manage "unread" status so that I don't see the same things over and over. And keybindings in G+.
The social features of Reader were not great, but we had an active group of about 30 people who shared research papers. Quite a number of new collaborations and papers were born in Reader comment threads. I see between 100 and 200 items each day, perhaps 20-30 of which are scientific papers shared by colleagues. G+ is generally not very utilitarian and it's clearly worthless for this use case.