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Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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It takes a special kind of arrogance to believe that you can rewrite the 10 commandments. But to rewrite them, see them there on the screen and not realise you have done it, in a much more inefficient way, and also much, much worse. Thats just a breakdown.

Tell it St Benedict. He's the one who wrote it.

I fully intend to. I have a few arguments to have with a few others before i get to him though, he's far from the worst.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

#32

It's breeze of fresh air compared to most code of conducts which sound like communist propaganda. This and the Linux code of conflict.

I'm not sure what you think communism is, but: 2. Then, love your neighbor as yourself. 5. Do not steal. 6. Do not covet. 14. Relieve the poor. 15. Clothe the naked. 18. Be a help in times of trouble. 38. Be not lazy. Those are all pretty deeply in line with marxism. Jesus was a communist, after all.

Free will

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

#33
post #12

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Meh. I'm deeply atheist, but if I s/god/luck, s/christ/this-philosophy and s/prayer/contemplative-thought it doesn't seem to me there's much in there that's objectionable... except maybe 11, 44, 45, 57, and 63. Less than 7% drivel by my generous accounting.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

#34
previously:

"SQLite: Code of Ethics" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26547201 (March 22, 2021 — 37 points, 23 comments)

"SQLite updated Code of Conduct" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18313131 (October 26, 2018 — 41 points, 89 comments)

"SQLite: Code of Ethics" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18297514 (October 24, 2018 — 34 points, 19 comments)

"SQLite: Code of Conduct" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18273530 (October 22, 2018 — 338 points, 288 comments [flagged])

"SQLite: Code of Conduct" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18273390 (October 22, 2018 — 157 points, 60 comments)

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

#35
post #22
post #17

So... what is SQLite's stance on abortion? [Edit] Found it: it's supported: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3912417/is-there-a-way-t...

SQLite: "When my mother was abducted by the Communists, she was with child.... but the Communists, they put an end to that! So, on this issue there is no debate! And no intelligent person can think differently."

According to the Search Engine, that's a quote from Seinfeld, nothing to do with SQLite.

https://www.seinfeldscripts.com/TheCouch.html

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

#37
post #12

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>> Pretty disappointing. I would have expected better than this religious drivel. If it's a joke, then you got me.

You can respect a person and their views on how they treat others without disparaging them.

It states: "No one is required to follow The Rule, to know The Rule, or even to think that The Rule is a good idea. The Founder of SQLite believes that anyone who follows The Rule will live a happier and more productive life, but individuals are free to dispute or ignore that advice if they wish."

Common descency and respect towards others does not ask you to believe as they do, but to let them speak and be heard.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

#38

The fact that repositories even have "codes of conduct" is Orwellian on one hand and a sign of idiocracy on the other.

Yeah, my commentary on this nonsense is at https://gitlab.com/kragen/bubbleos/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDU....

> Could J. K. Rowling require Harry Potter readers to follow a code of conduct? Could Werner Heisenberg demand that you subscribe to a code of conduct if you want to do quantum physics?

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> Codes of conduct typically make laudable promises such as “We pledge to respect all people,” in an attempt to convince readers that they [the authors] will behave laudably. In my experience, though, people who put a lot of effort into telling you how laudably they will behave do not behave any any more laudably than other people do — slightly the contrary, in fact. ...

> ... I expect that I’ll be delighted if you send me patches and bug reports, but on that count I make no promises. Feel free to send them repeatedly through different channels if you don’t get a response at first, since I often don’t notice things. If you like how I respond when you send me patches or bug reports, then maybe it would be a good idea to do more of it. If you don’t like it, then maybe you would be happier if you stopped. I’ll do my best to be polite, but I screw that up pretty often, to be honest. ...

> But, as I said before, what humans tell you they will do is not a very reliable predictor of what they will do. If you want to know what to expect of them, look at their past behavior. Don’t just look at their self-reports of their past behavior, although admissions against interest there can be quite revealing; look at traces it has left that they cannot delete, such as your own memory, mailing list archives, past Gitlab issues, and other people talking about them.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

#39

The fact that repositories even have "codes of conduct" is Orwellian on one hand and a sign of idiocracy on the other.

"We (the maintainers) don't want to work with you if you do/believe X" seems quite sane to me, it's their choice after all. If you don't like it, fork it or move along. Code of conducts are supposed to regulate how contributors to the project interact. Especially nowadays, where projects can come with a significant social aspect/dynamic, this becomes important.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

#40

I'm not religious but I've always liked this; it's fun to think of the SQLite developers as a small monastery. If monasteries can produce beer for the world (see: the Trappists), why not software?

If software engineering was available as a monastic vocation, we'd probably have a lot of significantly higher-quality software available. I would much rather use something written by a stylite with an esolang compiler than shat out by 100 poorly-coordinated javascript devs at MEGACORP.
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