Social media is a much bigger problem than any Google mining because social media naturally promotes the already dangerous both sides fallacies. Among other reasons.
Who is going to replace Google for us?
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Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?
#32I stopped using Gmail and Facebook about three years ago
I stopped using Google a bit later (without any good alternative, Bing and DDG are almost as bad)
But I still used Youtube a lot, I found interesting content there, and the algorithm mostly managed to keep me interested, even if many of the suggestions were crap.
But for some reason it suddenly changed a few days ago, the suggestions are all crap now.
Nothing of interest for me.
Why? Probably an update or some ongoing A/B test ongoing.
I'll miss the good suggestions, as I miss the old Google, but my plan is simply to stop spending so much time there, probably for the better.
I am curious if anyone else have experienced a similar change.
Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?
#33Fifteen years ago, Google was "the web company". They weren't about walled gardens; they were about the future, which was the web. It turns out they only liked it so much because, back then, Microsoft was bad at it, giving them a comparative advantage. We're living through another tragedy of the commons, but the culprit isn't human nature itself, so much as it is capitalism. The corporates have made sure they have ab…
we didn't have to let them get between us
Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?
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#35>Here’s the thing that made me write this - I used to load up Google News a lot, I’ve now switched to bookmarks. It’s one thing for promoting junk news sources, but recently I’ve seen them cary both Brietbart (known for historically running a “black crime” section!) and the Epoch Times (a disinformation site being run by an actual cult) spouting absolutely false covid denial. I can’t support this in any way. I’m done…
Brietbart and Epoch Times are the opposite of information. Misinformation run by people maliciously trying to get people to believe falsehoods isn't the same as an information source. And the misinformation networks are quite expertly run, just like blackhat SEO was. Sputnik, Infowards, or NAMBLA shouldn't be on par with the BBC or WaPo and if you think otherwise you maybe should lower your redpill dosages! EDIT: Dow…
WaPo isn't really great, either.
Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem with taking on Google Search is that of taking on the document corpus they build and the spidering / crawling work they do. Google and Bing are permitted by hosts to crawl, but new entrants effectively barred by most site's robots.txt. The barrier to entry is massive on that front alone. We really need a web infrastructure where the index (or the indexer) is somehow public and neutral, not owned by any pa…
How does DDG do it?
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#37Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?
#38We need to recreate the DMOZ web directory - probably in a federated variety with multiple competing "editors" for any given topic area - before we can hope to really do better than Google/Bing/DDG web search. Human curation is the best and most resilient alternative to SEO spam.
akebono.stanford.edu will never die
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Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?
#39If you think of the web as Google search's "content", they have let it rot. If Google had spent 1% of their AdWords payouts on encouraging people to post quality content on the web through e.g. better web authoring tools and protocols, they would have way less of a problem now. Perhaps the walled garden (that they did partially achieve with Youtube) is too alluring. They could have even tried to pay more for engaging web content that had lower bounce rates and that users came back repeatedly for, instead of just raw views from clickbait SEO. Obviously having turned the entire web into blogspam for ad money is no good for Google search and they are already having to turn it into "Youtube, Google ML content, and Google Maps user content" search.
Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?
#40OpenAI will.
Sadly openai has fallen behind google at their own game. Google was able to invest heavily and optimize it's hardware and infrastructure down to the silicon, which has turned out to be the critical competitive advantage in AI. Openai is really struggling to compete with google because of this.
Are they struggling to compete? OpenAI's GPT-3 and DALL-E 2 are much better known than Google's competing models LaMDA, PaLM, and Imagen.