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Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia

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Re: Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia

#31

Buy an EPSON. Apart from the fact they have separate ink cartridges for each colour, they also don't act like satan.

If any onevof the colors runs out, does it still print in b/w? Or, even worse- there is a printer i lnow that won't scan to usb if there's a color missing.

Re: Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia

#33
I have an epson eco-tank printer. I buy 3rd party bottles of ink once every 2-3 years. The upfront cost of the printer (multifunction model ET-4550) was high in 2015 ($500) but I've spent maybe $60-70 in ink to print (as of this morning) 19,536 pages (13,954 in color, 5,582 in B/W).

I can't see a good reason to keep buying printers that are locked into proprietary cartridges or toners.

Re: Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia

#35

I can't wrap my head around how the printer market has turned into this absolutely dispicable, foul state that it is in right now. Decades of innovation that have been invested, not to make a better product, but mostly on how to extract more and more money from their victims, I mean "customers". I would like to own a printer again, but for printing something like once a month, I just can't financially justify spendin…

If you print something once a month, then shouldn't the starter cartridge last for about the life of the printer (maybe a decade or so)? That's been my experience with the B&W Brother laser printer I bought about 2010. I've never changed anything on it. And really I don't find much need to print anything these days anyway.

They artificially expire on some brands.

Re: Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia

#36

I can't wrap my head around how the printer market has turned into this absolutely dispicable, foul state that it is in right now. Decades of innovation that have been invested, not to make a better product, but mostly on how to extract more and more money from their victims, I mean "customers". I would like to own a printer again, but for printing something like once a month, I just can't financially justify spendin…

> I can't wrap my head around how the printer market has turned into this absolutely dispicable, foul state that it is in right now.

Rent. You are effectively renting your printer, supplies are the payments. The hardware is expensive, sold cheaply, and supplies have high margins to make up for it.

It is often investors forcing this model.

Re: Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia

#38

Is there a printer that isn't a proprietary ink dispensing jail? I'm with current knowledge and tech it should be possible to print your own printer?

Epson EcoTank, pretty hard to lock out other vendors when your supply is delivered as a liquid.

Re: Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia

#39

Bummer, I’ve been a fan of Brother in the past. Owned two monochrome laser printers that have been great over 10 years of service with not a single paper jam.

That's also for me. I've advocated for Brother before here in HN, as they just seem to sell printers that works, and avoid toner shenanigans.

Same but based on this post and since I don’t buy printers anymore I simply can’t recommend anyone anymore.

I’ve probably accounted for the sale of dozens of brother printers over the years.

Re: Tell HN: Brother printers now locking out non-OEM paraphernalia

#40

I can't wrap my head around how the printer market has turned into this absolutely dispicable, foul state that it is in right now. Decades of innovation that have been invested, not to make a better product, but mostly on how to extract more and more money from their victims, I mean "customers". I would like to own a printer again, but for printing something like once a month, I just can't financially justify spendin…

If you want to print something once a month you can buy a cheap printer for like €40 – which is probably subsidized because the manufacturer thinks they will earn it back on selling you overpriced ink. But they won't since you will buy a single toner and cover all of your printing needs.

Anyway, I don't have a printer. I always just take my pdf and take a walk to a local printing service.

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