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Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Really starting to feel dangerous to live anywhere in the US southwest. Lake Meade approaching deadpool and massive wildfire nearing my house this summer. Plus the government is led by people who refer to much of the southwest as “fly over country” doesn’t help.

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I have heard it used unironically.

People in NYC and SF NEVER have anything but noble and well intentioned thoughts and comments about places like Texas? lol what an absolute load of shit

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Anyone here know if the thunderstorm events in SoCal earlier this week is a result of this?

No, we have entered monsoon season in SoCal. We get a couple monsoons like that in the summer months.

La Nina results in little rain in this area. We want an El Nino, because it will help the drought. Triple La Nina is bad news.

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Anecdotally, including us, anyone you talk to here is dealing with mold issues, and it is often a very expensive problem to fix. Having no let up period from I think Dec -> May where the property can dry out, in addition to rain bombs causing roof leaks. Many roofers have automated messages saying "we're too busy, no point". There is backlog in getting mold tested. Also affects general trades who don't give dates, th…

Yes, I'm in the sunshine coast and have experienced all of the above. We were cut off from school by flooding for about a week, a drive that usually took 15 minutes was taking at least an hour because of the long detour. And our roof has leaked. At least we didn't need to put water in the pool ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But the mould ... that was the worst. I'm going to smell of vinegar and clove oil for the rest of my life.

>"But the mould ... that was the worst. I'm going to smell of vinegar and clove oil for the rest of my life."

Whats the connection between mold, vinegar and clove oil? Are those used to treat or prevent surface mold?

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Maybe the Southwest should elect representatives that believe in climate change.

All eight Senators from CA, AZ, NV, and NM are Democrats, and I assume they "believe in climate change," although I'm not sure whether simply believing is going to make much of a difference.

Senators don't make local policy.

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Really starting to feel dangerous to live anywhere in the US southwest. Lake Meade approaching deadpool and massive wildfire nearing my house this summer. Plus the government is led by people who refer to much of the southwest as “fly over country” doesn’t help.

Isn't flyover country Kansas, not Arizona?

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> What do you expect the Feds to do about the weather? Intervene and rebalance the water markets, which are currently unsustainable based on bad decades-old science.

Water markets are broken primarily because of water rights, some of which were allocated centuries ago via local and regional contracts. They are nearly impossible to untangle, and state governments are required by law to honor them.

Congress can use eminent domain to untangle them.

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Yes, I'm in the sunshine coast and have experienced all of the above. We were cut off from school by flooding for about a week, a drive that usually took 15 minutes was taking at least an hour because of the long detour. And our roof has leaked. At least we didn't need to put water in the pool ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But the mould ... that was the worst. I'm going to smell of vinegar and clove oil for the rest of my life.

>"But the mould ... that was the worst. I'm going to smell of vinegar and clove oil for the rest of my life." Whats the connection between mold, vinegar and clove oil? Are those used to treat or prevent surface mold?

Vinegar is a a mild acid that's good for cleaning and carrying other things you might want to distribute.

Clove oil is quite effective at killing mold at very low doses. It's also got a number of other useful properties.

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Really starting to feel dangerous to live anywhere in the US southwest. Lake Meade approaching deadpool and massive wildfire nearing my house this summer. Plus the government is led by people who refer to much of the southwest as “fly over country” doesn’t help.

> Plus the government is led by people who refer to much of the southwest as “fly over country” doesn’t help. The people who (you assume) don't use the term "flyover country" are the people stopping Congress from spending money to fix environmental crises like drought. Even so, the White House has ordered studies and gotten Congress to spend a lot of money on the Southwest already[1]. What else are you looking for, e…

The bureau of reclamation started building dams and irrigation systems in the 1940s. They enabled current patterns of agriculture. They could disable them too,

Re: Rare ‘triple’ La Niña climate event looks likely

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Really starting to feel dangerous to live anywhere in the US southwest. Lake Meade approaching deadpool and massive wildfire nearing my house this summer. Plus the government is led by people who refer to much of the southwest as “fly over country” doesn’t help.

I've seen the pictures of the "bathtub" lines on Lake Meade and agree it looks scary however I keep seeing conflicting reports of how imminent the dead pool threat is. Here's an example I came across a few weeks ago. I don't know what the politics of this newspaper are but the person speaking is public affairs officer for the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation’s Lower Colorado Basin Region. It's hard for me to reconcile the math provided with this individuals rather sanguine statement.

>"Lake Mead would reach dead pool if the water level dropped to 895 feet, said Patti Aaron, public affairs officer for the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation’s Lower Colorado Basin Region. As of Wednesday, the level of Lake Mead is 1,049.65 feet, she said."

>“We’re not in danger of hitting dead pool,” Aaron said. “It’s not an imminent problem. It’s not something that’s going to happen tomorrow, and it’s something we don’t think is going to happen at all. We would take every action to not have that happen.”[1]

Perhaps this is also politics? There doesn't seem to be a lot of slack in that system and it almost seems like this person is doing a disservice with that statement.

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2022/may/26/understanding-dead-...

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> What do you expect the Feds to do about the weather? Intervene and rebalance the water markets, which are currently unsustainable based on bad decades-old science.

Water markets are broken primarily because of water rights, some of which were allocated centuries ago via local and regional contracts. They are nearly impossible to untangle, and state governments are required by law to honor them.

Water rights were not allocated centuries ago. All water managements systems (more or less) in place when the US took control of the southwest were overridden and replaced by US-style private property rights, a totally different system than exists east of the 100th parallel/the Mississippi. Consequently, they date back at most 1.5 centuries, and in general, less than that.
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