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Laundry symbols make no sense

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Re: Laundry symbols make no sense

#31
I don't check except for the occasional fancy shirt and even then it's only for iron temperature which is clear enough.

Dyes, machines and laundry detergent all changed for the better. I haven't inadvertently made things pink in 20 years now. The red now holds. Even new jeans come prewashed. My machine seems to be much gentler too.

Re: Laundry symbols make no sense

#32
Now find a washing machine with programs that match the washing symbols, even if its only documented in their manuals.

Its not a hard task building a washing machine or tumble dryer that matches the washing symbols, but it seems to be for the current industry leaders!

Re: Laundry symbols make no sense

#34
Laundry symbols make no sense... So let's get rid of them!

Let's simply make all clothes compatible with a regular wash and tumble dry process.

If the clothes use a dye that isn't waterproof, use a different dye. If the fabric is too fragile to withstand spinning, use a stronger fabric. If a material can't withstand the heat of a dryer, use better material.

Material science has come so far in the past 100 years that we can meet or exceed the performance of pretty much any of last centuries materials while also being able to make the stuff washable.

Re: Laundry symbols make no sense

#35

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> If it worked for so many years, a lot of people are familiar with them The thesis is that they don't work, at all. I have to look them up every time because they are absolutely inscrutable today. Laundry symbols are rarely looked at for most folks, so they have to be maximally communicative. It's not good enough if the only people that know what they mean are those that deal with them constantly.

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Not the op, but I'm an old straight male and the laundry queen of the household.

If it doesn't go into Normal Cold Wash / Low heat tumble dry, it has no place in our household - life is too short! :)

Re: Laundry symbols make no sense

#36
I have always found laundry symbols confusing. I agree with other comments that this proposed replacement has too many problems to be acceptable, but surely someone can do better than "crossed-out triangle", "underlined water cup", "Cylon wearing a jaunty cap", and my personal favorite, "literally just a circle".

Weird fact: Despite having been around for decades, laundry symbols have not been assigned Unicode code points. This mailing list email from Ken Whistler in 2003[1] suggests the existence of a conflicting Canadian standard as a reason, along with a philosophy of not including "icons" (especially color-coded ones!) in a "character" set, given that pictographic language is likely to change over the next century.

(Unicode threw that out the window in 2010 when they standardized emojis, and given how complex emojis have become Ken's argument is sounding better and better...)

[1] http://unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2003-m06/0274.html

Re: Laundry symbols make no sense

#37
post #9

Within a second of seeing the 'improved' ones I spot what is, to my mind at least, an immediate failure - the detail resolution is far too small. It doesn't account for the printing limitations on small fabric tags, never mind the ability of old fogeys such as myself to be able to squint that hard and actually read them. I have no idea even looking on my screen here what the difference between the first three is supp…

So I wear reading glasses and I’m with you the first 9 “improved” icons are indistinguishable to me at a glance. In particular the older ones with 20/30/50 are instantly readable where the new ones are not.

The iconography is updated which is nice but the line weights are too thick.

Re: Laundry symbols make no sense

#38
post #7

Some of these are better (the bleach one being the most obvious) but most of them are worse or neutral. If I don't know what a line under the washing machine means, how am I supposed to know what the 2nd button means. The line is at least more visible. It's similar for the iron. Maybe dots as temperature isn't obvious, but it's about as clear as the thermometer, is easy to read, and matches the icons on the iron itse…

The original dry-clean and do not dry-clean ones are the most confusing for me. A plain circle is somehow meant to represent dry-cleaning ?

Compare to the other symbols in that set: a square refers to the drying process, with the contents being how to dry it. A circle instead of a square means no drying process, so it shouldn't get wet in the first place - hence dry-cleaning.

At least that's how I see it, it could also just have been the last obvious symbol remaining after square/triangle were taken.

Re: Laundry symbols make no sense

#39

It’s a decent start, but without testing, there’s no evidence that these icons are any better than the originals. I’m not sure that they even meets the authors own objectives — there are more small details that are harder to resolve at small sizes and likely would be harder to print clearly. They also aren’t any more “googleable” than the originals. Lastly, they also assume that users are familiar with front loading…

Agreed. I wonder whether something like a QR code that takes you to a page with instructions is more simple as a solution. Hook that up to a smart washing machine, and it will set the appropriate instructions, or tell you if you have an incompatible load.

All that said, I've been ignoring the labels for years, and never had a problem.

Re: Laundry symbols make no sense

#40
post #6

Speaking of bad design, who thought it was a good idea to blink the labels in the animation, immediately after saying half of people asked knew none of the symbols?

Agreed. I had to watch the animation cycle a dozen times to address my curiosity on what the current symbols mean. Should have been two images like below, but with the text.
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