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House Address “Twins” Proximity (2017)

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Re: House Address “Twins” Proximity (2017)

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My house in Seattle has such a twin, two miles south. The only difference is the directional suffix: their street is South, while ours - unlike most Seattle streets - does not have a directional. Of course this has led to constant delivery mix-ups, when Google or some other service helpfully "corrects" our address to the other. My own sister once mistakenly followed her GPS to the wrong house!

In the UK it's common to use the postcode for pretty much everything, if you're delivering to 443 Manchester Road Bolton BL4 8RN, you aren't going to 443 Manchester Road Salford, M27 8TD.

Now OK in this particular case you're still screwed as they are literally next door, but normally you'd find it by putting in "M27 8TD" and you'd be set.

While UK postcodes can cover a large area, they usually don't.

My understanding of zip codes like 90210 is they aren't anywhere near as precise as M27 8TD, they're more like just the "M27" part.

Re: House Address “Twins” Proximity (2017)

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I lived in a rental house in the Salford Council area about 10 years ago. I was shocked to find a letter from a collection agency on behalf of the council one day, and assumed it must be a previous tenant.

Closer inspection revealed the postcode was wrong -- the goons had hand delivered it to an address 5 miles away. Same number, same street, same council area, completely different postcode (M28 vs M5)

Re: House Address “Twins” Proximity (2017)

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Where we live, you can get the same house number on, e.g. "North 8th St." and "North 8th Rd." (and possibly "North 8th Dr." and maybe "North 8th Pl.") a block or two apart. It's fairly common to have at least two of those. And it's maddening. I'd be curious to know if this situation is similarly common.

This is very common in the Phoenix area.

Re: House Address “Twins” Proximity (2017)

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Is it common for the name of the street not to change when entering a new municipality? Because in .nl, I know this happens and I'm pretty sure this is the common thing for major roads connecting small hubs. Actually, a road connecting village A to hamlet B would typically be called "A'seweg" (A road) in B and "B'seweg" (B road) in A. If they go through and connect more municipalities, they might become a numbered ro…

It does seem to be a common pattern here, that the old roads tend to name where they are going (which obviously only works in one direction!). For example, we have a 'London Road' which starts in the middle of Brighton, and takes you to London, which is 50 miles away. We also have quite a number of roman roads, although not that many around where we live, which criss cross the country, and can travel for hundreds of…

> For example, we have a 'London Road' which starts in the middle of Brighton, and takes you to London, which is 50 miles away

And naturally enough, at the London end (e.g. in Croydon), it's named 'Brighton Road'.

Re: House Address “Twins” Proximity (2017)

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My house in Seattle has such a twin, two miles south. The only difference is the directional suffix: their street is South, while ours - unlike most Seattle streets - does not have a directional. Of course this has led to constant delivery mix-ups, when Google or some other service helpfully "corrects" our address to the other. My own sister once mistakenly followed her GPS to the wrong house!

In the UK it's common to use the postcode for pretty much everything, if you're delivering to 443 Manchester Road Bolton BL4 8RN, you aren't going to 443 Manchester Road Salford, M27 8TD. Now OK in this particular case you're still screwed as they are literally next door, but normally you'd find it by putting in "M27 8TD" and you'd be set. While UK postcodes can cover a large area, they usually don't. My understandin…

US zip codes are actually 10 characters, eg 90210-3356

These last 4 provide the resolution needed to avoid this confusion.

I too live in the Seattle area and have this same doppelgänger problem, so I use the full zip code when possible (not all web sites allow it, and the last mile delivery is by hand, so can still go wrong)

Re: House Address “Twins” Proximity (2017)

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The last map seems to show several houses on that street with same numbers, because it looks like on the west side of that border the numbers go up to 443 from west to east, and on the east side of it, the numbers go up towards 443 from east to west. Google Maps[1] seems to confirm it, there are two 441's several houses away from each other separated by the two 443's (actually just separated by 1 house because they'r…

> The last map seems to show several houses on that street with same numbers, because it looks like on the west side of that border the numbers go up to 443 from west to east, and on the east side of it, the numbers go up towards 443 from east to west. It's weirder than that. On the odd side, Bolton counts up to 443 and then, as you cross into Manchester, Manchester counts down from 443. But at least the progression…

As a general rule, even numbers are on one side of the street and odd numbers on the other. Some more details here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_numbering

Re: House Address “Twins” Proximity (2017)

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About 10 years ago when still I lived in California, I began receiving postal mail for another house with the same number that had recently been built on my street one mile to the north, but in another city. This went on for a while until I finally complained to the Postmaster.

Re: House Address “Twins” Proximity (2017)

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In the UK it's common to use the postcode for pretty much everything, if you're delivering to 443 Manchester Road Bolton BL4 8RN, you aren't going to 443 Manchester Road Salford, M27 8TD. Now OK in this particular case you're still screwed as they are literally next door, but normally you'd find it by putting in "M27 8TD" and you'd be set. While UK postcodes can cover a large area, they usually don't. My understandin…

US zip codes are actually 10 characters, eg 90210-3356 These last 4 provide the resolution needed to avoid this confusion. I too live in the Seattle area and have this same doppelgänger problem, so I use the full zip code when possible (not all web sites allow it, and the last mile delivery is by hand, so can still go wrong)

I live in a neighborhood where houses are numbered by block, starting at "100" at the city center (many/most US address schemes work this way)

Due to being nearly the same distance east and north from the center point, there is a house around the corner that has the same address number as mine, theirs is "East" and mine is "North" and the street name is different. I don't know if we both have the same 10-digit zip code, but we do still get each other's mail at least a few times a month.

Re: House Address “Twins” Proximity (2017)

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Got caught up with a "nonexistent twin" for my old address.

I had address "123 Some AVE." in the town. There was also a road named "Some PLACE" in the town but there was not a 123 for the house number anywhere on the "Some Pl." road. "123 Some Pl." does not exist in the town.

BUT, you can type in "123 Some Pl." in Google or Apple Maps along with the town name and the maps program will just throw you at the closest numbering house on "Some Pl." If you're not paying attention you just think it's the correct address.

Somehow my voter registration was set to the "123 Some Pl." (but my driver's license was correct) so I was in the wrong voting district (quick phone call cleared that up). Also sometimes packages would try to get delivered over there to "123 Some Pl.".

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