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Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

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Kickstarter may survive since they enjoy near monopoly status, but otherwise how can they compete given that high performers in tech are allergic to unions?

> high performers in tech are allergic to unions? High performers in tech do not have a problem with the heirs who own a majority of their corporation's stock telling them what to do, but are allergic to the people alongside them doing the work and creating the wealth from having input.

Heirs? Kickstarter isn't a dynasty by any stretch of imagination. High performers in tech are in fact allergic to unions. I guarantee you that the highest paid FANG engineers would never in a million years even consider applying to a unionized tech company.

Do you know how hard it is to already weed out underperformers in large tech companies? I wouldn't be surprised if half of Kickstarter's engineers pumped out fewer than 3 PRs a week. Only the underperformers will choose to stay in the long run.

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Big no thanks to this. If you hate where you work this much, improve yourself and work somewhere else. Replacing at-will with "just cause", progressive disciplining, with criteria for performance improvement plans. If you're three years into a career in tech (technical or not) and you haven't figured out that being PIP'd or indirectly told you're fucking up - making this language "nicer" isn't going to help anyone. A…

Why does organizing mean you hate your workplace?

Organizing means you want more power, more control.

Also, there are many dimensions to liking or disliking your workplace. You may love the product your working on. You may really like your colleagues. You may also love the office environment. However, you may dislike the amount of vacation days, the lack of ability to work part time or the lack of paternal leave.

Workplaces have literally hundreds of properties, each of which you may like or dislike. So organizing to tweak those you dislike (while, on balance, you actually still like most properties) is very normal.

Re: Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

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Is it mandatory for employees to join the union?

In Canada, it is not. If you don’t join the union, you may still benefit from the union’s bargaining power so you will pay some dues to the union. I would presume this varies per region.

Re: Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

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Love that someone in tech is finally getting unions in tech, don't love that it was kickstarter though. Their corporate culture is very toxic and I don't see them sticking around long term. It might be just me but my impression of kickstarter is that they are some of the worst offenders of 'maximum virtue signaling, minimum virtue'. That makes me inherently skeptical of a move like this.

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Re: Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

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Love that someone in tech is finally getting unions in tech, don't love that it was kickstarter though. Their corporate culture is very toxic and I don't see them sticking around long term. It might be just me but my impression of kickstarter is that they are some of the worst offenders of 'maximum virtue signaling, minimum virtue'. That makes me inherently skeptical of a move like this.

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Re: Kickstarter Union voted 97.6% to ratify one of the first tech union contracts

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Kickstarter may survive since they enjoy near monopoly status, but otherwise how can they compete given that high performers in tech are allergic to unions?

While I disagree with the idea that high performers are "allergic" to unions, Kickstarter seems like a project that is pretty much done and is in maintenance mode. Developers are going to be seen as a lot more fungible than at a tech-focused company with hard problems that need to be solved, or lofty ambitions that require a lot of innovation. It doesn't seem like they need high performing individual contributors, they just need competent developers who are able to keep things running, fix bugs and make minor enhancements.
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