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Writing is a single-player game

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Re: Writing is a single-player game

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This feels like a submarine article, so I'm going to go off on a tangent, and ask, "For how long will this be true?" With evolving documents like wikipedia and Conflict-free Replicated Data Type (CRDTs) coming into favor, it feels like writing could be a cooperative and multi-player game. Most of the meetings I go to have an EtherPad open for all the participants to collaboratively take notes during the discussion. I…

That's social media and it sucks.

Social media could learn a thing or two from Wikipedia--scalable collaboration that is actually constructive.

Re: Writing is a single-player game

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I don't disagree with the general sentiment, but as someone who has faced literal attempts on his life for revealing unpleasant truths about powerful people and has PTSD, I find myself cautious in fully accepting the optimism. And I'm someone who had a pretty big platform in the 2010s. The problem with "speaking truth to power" is that the shitbags in power already know the truth (that they're shitbags, and that in a…

Speaking truth to the power sometimes is nothing to do about power itself. It is about speaking.

In fact writing is never one person’s game. Otherwise why bother to write. It is also not just about who the author write to. It is the side audience, the chorus in the Greek drama, the reader of the x outside the channel etc.

of course someone has to struggle through it on their own. There is a target audience.

But real life it is never about them.

P.S. chapter 4 of Zhoungzi is about this speaking the power and even strangely it is arguing even if one adopt a zhoungzi position, very post-modern. The speaking truth to power could be just a guy state his position and not changed anything. Just hurt himself. But if the story leaked out it is a different matter. But if one concerns oneself … hence never about one. Not ever one person’s game.

Re: Writing is a single-player game

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post #29

I don't disagree with the general sentiment, but as someone who has faced literal attempts on his life for revealing unpleasant truths about powerful people and has PTSD, I find myself cautious in fully accepting the optimism. And I'm someone who had a pretty big platform in the 2010s. The problem with "speaking truth to power" is that the shitbags in power already know the truth (that they're shitbags, and that in a…

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Re: Writing is a single-player game

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This feels like a submarine article, so I'm going to go off on a tangent, and ask, "For how long will this be true?" With evolving documents like wikipedia and Conflict-free Replicated Data Type (CRDTs) coming into favor, it feels like writing could be a cooperative and multi-player game. Most of the meetings I go to have an EtherPad open for all the participants to collaboratively take notes during the discussion. I…

There's nothing submarine about it, Justin is shilling his community quite openly at the end, if you asked him "hey what's that last paragraph about" I expect he'd reply "I'm shilling indiethinkers what does it look like".

Submarine is when you launder your ad through some putatively neutral platform, Justin runs otherlife, there's no mystery here.

Re: Writing is a single-player game

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This feels like a submarine article, so I'm going to go off on a tangent, and ask, "For how long will this be true?" With evolving documents like wikipedia and Conflict-free Replicated Data Type (CRDTs) coming into favor, it feels like writing could be a cooperative and multi-player game. Most of the meetings I go to have an EtherPad open for all the participants to collaboratively take notes during the discussion. I…

There's nothing submarine about it, Justin is shilling his community quite openly at the end, if you asked him "hey what's that last paragraph about" I expect he'd reply "I'm shilling indiethinkers what does it look like". Submarine is when you launder your ad through some putatively neutral platform, Justin runs otherlife, there's no mystery here.

> Justin is shilling his community quite openly at the end

Yeah, I got curious about that, and googled for the word. "Enroll, One-Time, $550", it said. Right :-)

Re: Writing is a single-player game

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I don't disagree with the general sentiment, but as someone who has faced literal attempts on his life for revealing unpleasant truths about powerful people and has PTSD, I find myself cautious in fully accepting the optimism. And I'm someone who had a pretty big platform in the 2010s. The problem with "speaking truth to power" is that the shitbags in power already know the truth (that they're shitbags, and that in a…

Speaking truth to the power sometimes is nothing to do about power itself. It is about speaking. In fact writing is never one person’s game. Otherwise why bother to write. It is also not just about who the author write to. It is the side audience, the chorus in the Greek drama, the reader of the x outside the channel etc. of course someone has to struggle through it on their own. There is a target audience. But real…

> In fact writing is never one person’s game. Otherwise why bother to write.

Ever hear of personal diaries or lecture notes? People write to formulate their thoughts, reflect on their lives, record something so they can remember it later, establish a base of ideas on which to build on top of, etc.

It could possibly be argued that at some point what they will interact with others, and they might use the results of those thoughts in the interaction, and therefore indirectly the writing is not single-player, but unless you're a hermit living in the mountains that's just something that has to happen and "single-player" becomes a bit useless as a definition. I might as well start saying single-player board and video games are multi-player then, too, as I might take skills I picked up playing them into the real world.

Like I've got about 300,000 words in a personal diary. Some of them I intend to maybe eventually turn into blog posts, but the vast majority of those words I will most likely keep private until my death (after that point, whatever). But every once in a while I reread some entries, and help remember some details about my life that I have since forgotten. Also there's a bunch of game designs I recorded that I might need to get a reminder of what I was thinking when I double back to them.

But those journals aren't going to build me an audience sitting on my hard drive or physically written on a notebook.

Re: Writing is a single-player game

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I don't disagree with the general sentiment, but as someone who has faced literal attempts on his life for revealing unpleasant truths about powerful people and has PTSD, I find myself cautious in fully accepting the optimism. And I'm someone who had a pretty big platform in the 2010s. The problem with "speaking truth to power" is that the shitbags in power already know the truth (that they're shitbags, and that in a…

Speaking truth to the power sometimes is nothing to do about power itself. It is about speaking. In fact writing is never one person’s game. Otherwise why bother to write. It is also not just about who the author write to. It is the side audience, the chorus in the Greek drama, the reader of the x outside the channel etc. of course someone has to struggle through it on their own. There is a target audience. But real…

> In fact writing is never one person’s game. Otherwise why bother to write.

Writing is useful as a way to better articulate your thoughts. When the thoughts are in your head, it's "obvious" that they just "make sense". But when you have to give them structure on a page, putting them into the real world, you may start to see that your ideas weren't so coherent after all.

One could then argue, "But why are you trying to better articulate your thoughts if not to communicate them to others, i.e. an audience?" Which is a valid point, but I think there's value in developing clearer thinking, in terms of living a better, more fulfilling life.

Re: Writing is a single-player game

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Publicly available but protected? Sorry, but that's just mean. Your son will likely never read all, or any, of it. But someone else's son might. If it wasn't login protected, that is.

Why should they make something public if it was not written to be public? How is that mean?

Exactly. It's even worse than the belief that privacy is unnecessary unless you have something to hide, since it enslaves you to a positive obligation to informing others, and despite the risks. If you have something interesting to say regarding humans, then you have to judge that there doesn't exist someone sufficiently threatened by it to do you or your interests any harm, and thinking through that is both stressful and uncertain. The safest default assumption is privacy.

Just getting some of your thoughts down in writing is a first step, like a diary or journal. Maybe a few of those thoughts should be public soon, or maybe not. But getting them down helps your thinking and is useful.

Writing is not a public good by default, but merely a physical manifestation of thought, and thus private.

Re: Writing is a single-player game

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I don't disagree with the general sentiment, but as someone who has faced literal attempts on his life for revealing unpleasant truths about powerful people and has PTSD, I find myself cautious in fully accepting the optimism. And I'm someone who had a pretty big platform in the 2010s. The problem with "speaking truth to power" is that the shitbags in power already know the truth (that they're shitbags, and that in a…

I read the title as "Writing a single player game" and was utterly confused by this comment. Damn you brain!
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