RIP Oxide computer company. Cantrill's productivity is about to go to zero for a while.
> RIP Oxide computer company. Cantrill's productivity is about to go to zero for a while.
What’s the relation?
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#32What are some precious information in ACM.org that is not possible to get another place? I mean in this age where everything is so public. Or not? I used to have a 1 year free access to all of ACM resources. This was a gift. But I did not to anything. Maybe I lost an opportunity.
What if you needed to link to a paper on your company's website? You'd link to sci-hub?
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#33If anyone is curious, here’s the previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31447465 “ACM Digital Library Archive is Open Access with 50 Years of Published Records” (acm.org) 473 points by yarapavan 23 days ago | 51 comments
And here's the original discussion at the time of the announcement:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30944881
ACM Opens First 50 Years Backfile
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#34RIP Oxide computer company. Cantrill's productivity is about to go to zero for a while.
Ha -- I've actually been a Digital Library subscriber for a long time due to my association with ACM Queue, and tried in vain for years to get the ACM to do something like this. I did convince them years ago to let selected practitioner DL subscribers "unlock" interesting articles, which I promptly did myself with one of my all-time favorite articles[0] -- but ACM didn't publicize the program (or really even mention it?) and to the best of my knowledge, that article was the only one made available.
[0] http://dtrace.org/blogs/bmc/2008/07/18/revisiting-the-intel-...
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#35Sadly I think this announce came around the time they relationship that gave you access to O'Reilly library was torn up. I suspect a lot of people won't be renewing ACM membership just on economic grounds
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#36Anyone else's company's employment agreement prevent them from join a standards body without permission?
Nope. I've even had them pay my membership costs for ACM and IEEE and various SIGs or Societies within them. Why wouldn't they want you to participate, even passively, in these organizations?
Because they do not want you to submit their proprietary tech as an open standard. In the extreme, think about submitting .NET to ECMA. Something lighter might be a proprietary image format or interchange method. Engineers may find this useful. It may be at the request of a significant customer. It may even be in the best interest of the company. It does not mean senior management will agree though.
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#38RIP Oxide computer company. Cantrill's productivity is about to go to zero for a while.
> RIP Oxide computer company. Cantrill's productivity is about to go to zero for a while. What’s the relation?
Well, it seems not seeing this response in a timely manner has worked out for me as Bryan himself responded already but the joke was that he's often talked about being sidelined by doing journal study and/or obsessing over old manuals and papers. He also gave a paperswelove[0] on two papers in 2016, one of which is actually in the ACM library[1], and was involved with systemswelove[2].
Bryan, if you're reading this, I'm not a stalker. Apparently being accused of making a "submarine post" makes for a thorough reply, from me at least, even never having heard the term before.
[0] https://paperswelove.org/2016/video/bryan-cantrill-jails-and-solaris-zones/
[1] https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.5555/1052676.1052707
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjVkCfgsLQ4]
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nope. I've even had them pay my membership costs for ACM and IEEE and various SIGs or Societies within them. Why wouldn't they want you to participate, even passively, in these organizations?
Because they do not want you to submit their proprietary tech as an open standard. In the extreme, think about submitting .NET to ECMA. Something lighter might be a proprietary image format or interchange method. Engineers may find this useful. It may be at the request of a significant customer. It may even be in the best interest of the company. It does not mean senior management will agree though.
MAANG+M. They want control.
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#40Anyone else's company's employment agreement prevent them from join a standards body without permission?
Nope. I've even had them pay my membership costs for ACM and IEEE and various SIGs or Societies within them. Why wouldn't they want you to participate, even passively, in these organizations?
I meant ANSI, ITU, ISO standards committee involvement or publishing RFCs on your own time without their name attached to yours. I can understand not using their name without permission.