Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Sunsetting Atom

github.blog

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

31–40 of 880 posts

Re: Sunsetting Atom

#31

Post by lijogdfljk »

red_phone wrote: post #22
civilized wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GitHub is owned by Microsoft, the company that invented "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish". We should be counting down the days till they sunset VS Code to focus on VS Code "Pro".

I’m not sure the term has ever been applied to Microsoft’s own products…

But Atom isn't, is it? It was started prior to Microsoft, to which Microsoft bought Github, and are now "sunsetting". While i don't think Atom was enough competition to actually warrant any real discussion here, the timeline seems quite fitting to EEE no?

Re: Sunsetting Atom

#34

Post by ghshephard »

mproud wrote: post #4

What recommendations do you all have for alternatives?

There are a couple credible alternatives that get a lot of maintenance (I use them both for 3+ hours a day):

If you are coding: Unless you are using IntelliJ (which a ton of of my colleagues do, and love) - it's a vscode world. Everyone at every company I've seen bangs away using that. It's kind of amazing how much inertia it's picked up (currently).

If you are working with text: 90% of the time if I have a couple gigabytes of text I need to do a lot of work with - it's Sublime Text. Actively Developed. A really solid text plugin architecture. The other 10% of the time I still use vim - mostly because it's in my finger DNA. Emacs is the obvious alternative which lots of smart people I know use.

I'd be interested in knowing if there are people who have used all five of these for > 100 hours that would recommend something else - (I haven't used Emacs that much - but I have well over a couple hundred hours on each of intelliJ/vscode/vim/Sublime. Probably close to 1000+ hours on the last three). (okay, small fib - close to 5,000+ hours on Sublime. I spend almost as much time in that tool as I do bash).

Re: Sunsetting Atom

#35

Post by davidkunz »

antileet wrote: post #25
jstx1 wrote: post #2

It's what kickstarted Electron which eventually gave us VSCode, Slack, and lots of HN comments about memory usage. It also had the sweetest default theme of any code editor. RIP.

Electron was originally known as "Atom Shell"!

Ha, that makes sense from a physics perspective as electrons orbit the nucleus.

Re: Sunsetting Atom

#37

Post by tediousdemise »

civilized wrote: post #14
Doctor_Fegg wrote: post #7

“Sunsetting” an open source project seems… unfitting? Hand it off to the community, look for new maintainers, donate it to the Apache Retirement Home for Veteran Projects, sure. But saying that you’ve decided to “sunset” or “archive” it, telling users to plan for their migration, seems counter to the notion that open source software forms part of a commons - something that Github, of all companies, should understand.

GitHub is owned by Microsoft, the company that invented "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish". We should be counting down the days till they sunset VS Code to focus on VS Code "Pro".

When this inevitably happens to VSCode, I'm sure we'll all flock to Sublime Text in droves (or some hip new editor on the block).

Contingency planning for this could be a small but wise time investment for dependent teams. VSCode could very well go the way of the Do... Docker.

Re: Sunsetting Atom

#38

Post by Atreiden »

Called this ~4 years ago when they were acquired by M$.

But it's still really sad to see. I use it because it was trivial to CSS style it to match my Desktop. It's comfortable to me in a way that other editors thus far have not been.

Are there other editors with this level of customizability? I know VSCode and Sublime support theming but from what I can tell it involves installing pre-packaged themes.

Re: Sunsetting Atom

#39

Post by acwan93 »

mproud wrote: post #4

What recommendations do you all have for alternatives?

I really wanted to use Coda (now Nova [1]) from Panic, but I kept coming back to VSCode. VSCode seems to be the path of least resistance.

I think I’ll try it again after seeing the news about Atom.

[1]: https://nova.app/

Re: Sunsetting Atom

#40

Post by cedilla »

Doctor_Fegg wrote: post #7

“Sunsetting” an open source project seems… unfitting? Hand it off to the community, look for new maintainers, donate it to the Apache Retirement Home for Veteran Projects, sure. But saying that you’ve decided to “sunset” or “archive” it, telling users to plan for their migration, seems counter to the notion that open source software forms part of a commons - something that Github, of all companies, should understand.

I agree in principle, but I find it hard to imagine that there's enough interest to find someone who is willing to maintain the software and the package registry.

Speaking of packages - of the six featured packages I get offered on atom.io, only one had a release in the last two years, and half have been unchanged for half a decade. Atom's already dead.

Post reply on HN