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Re: Create macOS or Linux virtual machines

#31

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This looks like it's just running Linux VMs as a guest in macOS, right? Was that not already possible on macOS, or just not possible on the M1/M2 chips?

It was not possible on M1/M2 chips (aside from a commercial solution, Parallels, which is €99.99/yr).

What was Docker doing?

Re: Create macOS or Linux virtual machines

#32
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The title and the Apple domain made it look for a second like an officially supported solution to run Linux directly on Apple silicon. This would have been so much more than Asahi Linux. The title should have been "Create macOS or Linux virtual machines" but I guess OP chose something that sounds more attractive and "votable".

Well, not to bash the OP, but a "votable" title does distracts us from a conversation about the actual changes to Mac OS.

I might have misinterpreted the session description, but “We’ll also explore how you can install and run full Linux distributions on Apple Silicon” is the sentence that made me post this in the first place.

Edit: Also, while I agree that the title sounds click baity, it is a quote from the description, that I wanted to highlight. Using the session title wouldn’t have done that. Guess we’ll see, when the session drops tomorrow.

Re: Create macOS or Linux virtual machines

#33
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I was very excited, very briefly, by the title of this post. Now very disappointed.

Same, but I re-read the text: Learn how you can use the Virtualization framework to quickly create virtual machines on your Mac. We'll show you how to create a virtual Mac and quickly test changes to your app in an isolated environment. We'll also explore how you can install and run full Linux distributions on Apple silicon, and share how you can take advantage of Rosetta 2 to run x86-64 Linux binaries. (emphasis min…

> We'll also explore how you can install and run full Linux distributions on Apple silicon

… in a VM on macOS as the host system.

Re: Create macOS or Linux virtual machines

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post #4

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> But there's no way apple would publish instruction on replacing macOS with Linux They support "replacing" macOS with Windows 10. I haven't personally tested it, but I hear Windows 10 ARM even runs on the M1.

Windows 10/11 ARM currently only work in virtual machines, Apple does not provide ARM drivers for Windows like they did for Intel editions.

To be fair there is no publicly commercialized version of Windows ARM. They only licence OEM.

So even if Apple wanted to provide ARM driver they probably couldn't for legal reasons. So why should they bother and who can blame them?

Re: Create macOS or Linux virtual machines

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This looks like it's just running Linux VMs as a guest in macOS, right? Was that not already possible on macOS, or just not possible on the M1/M2 chips?

It was not possible on M1/M2 chips (aside from a commercial solution, Parallels, which is €99.99/yr).

Nope, it was possible and the API is open for anyone to use. UTM (open source, $10 for a built product) supports it.
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