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DALL-E 2 generates images of Kermit The Frog in various films

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Loved the David Lynch ones. I'm disappointed the image it generated for Eraserhead[1] didn't have Kermit as the baby[2]. I'm curious as to what it would generate for "Kermit the Frog in David Lynch's Dune". [1]: https://twitter.com/HvnsLstAngel/status/1531774195234791424?... [2]: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=eraserhead+baby&iax=images&...

> Kermit the Frog in David Lynch's Dune

DALL-E would just shoot back a still with Kyle McLachlan in it. He's already so Kermit like!

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I don’t understand how this isn’t infringing some copyright. Anyone do any research on this? If we accept that a model trained on copyright material does not infringe on the materials rights, then circumventing all copyright can be as simple as creating a sufficiently close derivative and giving it away. Not to say that copyright is good to begin with.

>circumventing all copyright can be as simple as creating a sufficiently close derivative and giving it away.

That's correct. People do this all the time, sans the giving it away part.

Also, there is no way that you can argue these images are not transformative.

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These are honestly not very impressive (no sarcasm here) and further convince me that the next AI Winter will come with this coming recession. Don't get me wrong, they are still impressive in the quality of the visual they produce, but just like Markov Chain demos of old, they're neat but way miss the mark. None of these capture the "feel" of Kermit the Frog. Most of them look like weird designs for the Ninja Turtles…

I genuinely can't tell if you're trolling. This isn't impressive because the AI model doesn't accurately capture the "feel" of Kermit!?

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These are mind bogglingly good

If you ran it 1000 times and picked the best, you might get all good ones. I would want to see all 1000. It's like stock picker ads (person who called the market says XXX) where you only show the lucky ones.

Are you aware that this is how human artists work, too? They make countless works that aren't comparable to their top works. Even more so if you count the practice when they were just starting out. I think some people just refuse to believe that real art can be generated without humans and selectively look for things that confirm their pre-determined conclusion. Witnessing this always feels like witnessing someone before the wheel was invented, when things were rolled and logs, assuring everyone that technology will never beat manual labor because look at how cumbersome it is to work with logs.

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post #27

If this is legit it would be one of the most impressive things I've seen in many years.

? Dale is a legit project from openAI

I think "legit" in this context might mean more of the Twitter post author's representation of their use of DALL-E 2:

- Were the prompts shown the ones fed to DALL-E 2 or were there more complex details described in the prompt?

- Were these the first images generated for the prompt, or did the author generate many images and cherry-pick the best example, and if so from how many?

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post #29
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

? Dale is a legit project from openAI

That doesn't mean the images in this tweet thread are output from Dalle though… Although if an individual created all of these then that's about the same amount of impressive

It's funny that 10 years ago "a human did it" would be, by far, the most plausible explanation. Today, it's "AI did it." Put another way, if a human made these then it'd be as shocking as seeing DALL-E 2 in 2012.

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I don’t understand how this isn’t infringing some copyright. Anyone do any research on this? If we accept that a model trained on copyright material does not infringe on the materials rights, then circumventing all copyright can be as simple as creating a sufficiently close derivative and giving it away. Not to say that copyright is good to begin with.

>circumventing all copyright can be as simple as creating a sufficiently close derivative and giving it away. That's correct. People do this all the time, sans the giving it away part. Also, there is no way that you can argue these images are not transformative.

>> Also, there is no way that you can argue these images are not transformative.

Exactly. Kermit has been very much transformed, and "in the style of" is not copyright infringement AFAIK.

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I don’t understand how this isn’t infringing some copyright. Anyone do any research on this? If we accept that a model trained on copyright material does not infringe on the materials rights, then circumventing all copyright can be as simple as creating a sufficiently close derivative and giving it away. Not to say that copyright is good to begin with.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformative_use

Re: DALL-E 2 generates images of Kermit The Frog in various films

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn’t matter if these images were one in 10,000, the facts that any exist that are this good is crazy.

Yeah exactly. The fact that a person who could never create such a picture on their own, now just has to go through a bunch of images and select one to get this result is already amazing. The goal posts keep shifting, glass half empty.

It reminds me of pop articles about the P=NP question which simplify it down to, "is being able to recognize creativity the same as being creative?" Turns out for practical purposes, yes (the simplification question not the mathematical question), as long as you can offload the work to an AI on a powerful compute cluster!
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