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Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

#31

Anyone else miss Office 97? You just installed it locally off a disc and it just worked when you needed it. You didn’t even need internet.

I'll happily use an old Office, just please splice in the "What do you want to do?" search bar so I don't have to hunt through nested menus/ribbons for some obscure formatting option I use once every 6 months.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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The only way this sort of thing changes is with labor organization ie unionization.

The government won’t save you from efforts like this. The government represents the interests of the capital owning class.

The demonization of unions is one of the most successful cases of propaganda in the last century. It’s gone so far s people who will die on the hill of Jeff Bezos paying slightly more taxes because everyone seems to think they’ll be Jeff Bezos one day.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

All businesses require an audit of some kind. How do you think due diligence works?

That's an extremely strong statement that is obviously not true, except in the most weak and generic form. How do you think reality works?

Yeah if you want to defraud people, sure. No auditing required. Who's being dishonest here and making false statements? (Can you see the irony???)

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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post #32

The only way this sort of thing changes is with labor organization ie unionization. The government won’t save you from efforts like this. The government represents the interests of the capital owning class. The demonization of unions is one of the most successful cases of propaganda in the last century. It’s gone so far s people who will die on the hill of Jeff Bezos paying slightly more taxes because everyone seems…

>The demonization of unions is over the most successful cases of propaganda in the last century.

It is possible to see unions as both the source of some and solution to other forms of abuse.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

#36

Anyone else miss Office 97? You just installed it locally off a disc and it just worked when you needed it. You didn’t even need internet.

2 years ago I decided to fire up my Pentium#100 and write a technical plan on it using Office 2000, for my real life corporate job. It worked magnificently, no fuss, plan presentation went fine. Faster on a 100mhz machine with 16MB ram than whatever monstrosity underlies O365 and Google Docs.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have "workplace collusion" as a category, and even more dystopian shit, like: EDIT: apparently these 2 are just jokes, sorry for not checking my sources! `Negative emotions: Expressions of sadness, unhappiness, discontent, anger, rage, anguish, or existential ennui, as these may negatively affect team cohesion. Joy: Language suggesting hopefulness, optimism, anticipation of a brighter future, faith in humankind…

Those ones are a joke. Look at the purported "Roadmap ID" that poster used.

Thank you for pointing it out. FWIW, the "workspace collusion" one is actually real - original source: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/roadmap?rtc=1&...

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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post #32

The only way this sort of thing changes is with labor organization ie unionization. The government won’t save you from efforts like this. The government represents the interests of the capital owning class. The demonization of unions is one of the most successful cases of propaganda in the last century. It’s gone so far s people who will die on the hill of Jeff Bezos paying slightly more taxes because everyone seems…

Already saved from this sort of thing by just being self employed for the past 10 years. I get paid for every hour of work with no spying and just a weekly status update with my clients. It's a simple relationship and I am honestly not sure I could ever go back.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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post #31

Anyone else miss Office 97? You just installed it locally off a disc and it just worked when you needed it. You didn’t even need internet.

I'll happily use an old Office, just please splice in the "What do you want to do?" search bar so I don't have to hunt through nested menus/ribbons for some obscure formatting option I use once every 6 months.

Older office didn't have the god awful ribbon.

Re: Microsoft Purview: Additional classifiers for Communication Compliance (preview)

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I have zero confidence that this system is smart enough to differentiate between all these things and the legitimate variants thereof (e.g. collusion and cross team collaboration are basically indistinguishable) that companies actually want people doing or discussing and likely outnumber the bad by orders of magnitude.

NLP has improved a lot in the last 5 years. I believe that this is now technically possible with the right training data.
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