Then there's that little voice in the back of my head saying "Cyanogenmod?"
Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'
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Re: Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suspect it's the other way around. MSFT bet the company on WP7, clearly has spent oodles of time and effort on it, but all of the launch devices were snoozefests - some were outright, lazy ripoffs of the OEMs' existing Android phones. There was nothing unique, compelling, or, well, anything about these phones. Most were even exceptionally crappy with the exception of the Samsung. It's clear that none of the OEMs we…
I might get downvoted for this sarcasm, but: That thing looks like a lazy ripoff of the Nokia N9. But oh well. They're both beautiful :-) Disclaimer: I used to work for Nokia.
>That thing looks like a lazy ripoff of the Nokia N9.
Doesn't that apply to iPhone4S as well?
Re: Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well… Nokia kinda is. Check out the S40 Asha phones Nokia released today. (Though maybe they class as smartphones too?)
Yeah, I guess... I really don't regard Symbian as a viable platform, though
First off, S40 isn't Symbian. Secondly, didn't you just ask for a featurephone then why do you care about the platform?
Re: Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'
#34Is anyone doing high quality non-smart phones anymore? I'm looking for something that's small, sturdy with long battery life. Preferably with good music playing. I suppose Sony Ericssons's non-android phones are pretty good in that space, are there any others?
SE planned to stop producing non-Android phones in 2012
Re: Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'
#35Wow there's gonna be Nokia Windows Phones for 60 euros
They are developing Meltemi for low-end range. They won't use WP7 for that.
Re: Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'
#36I love the look of WP7 and this phone looks decent! I don't generally use apps, preferring webapps on the mobile browser. How does WP7's browser compare to Android or iOS? I've heard some say its good, others saying its terrible. Its hard to get an unbiased answer after years of thrashing desktop IE.
Although IE has been updated to 9 with Mangoo which is a decent browser, i would expect the same problems Opara gets with cutting edge stuff: You are very lucky if the app got tested for IE. I never encountered serious problems though, even with IE7.
IE getting punished by the marketplace for not adhering to standards?! The prayers of a hundred thousand angry webdevs have surely been answered :-)
Re: Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'
#37I love the look of WP7 and this phone looks decent! I don't generally use apps, preferring webapps on the mobile browser. How does WP7's browser compare to Android or iOS? I've heard some say its good, others saying its terrible. Its hard to get an unbiased answer after years of thrashing desktop IE.
I've recently purchased a WP7, initially the browser was horrible, now they've upgraded it to IE9 it's much better, but I've still noticed problems on some pages, most notable of which is the new version of the Facebook Touch site. It's much better on my Android and IOS devices than it is on WP7, I'm not sure whether thats IE9's fault or Facebooks for not testing it on those devices, but it looks worse and has a bunch of rendering errors.
So the varying opinions are probably both Mango vs older WP7 versions, and also certain websites not being tested on it (perhaps using mobile webkit specific stuff)
Re: Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'
#38I love the look of WP7 and this phone looks decent! I don't generally use apps, preferring webapps on the mobile browser. How does WP7's browser compare to Android or iOS? I've heard some say its good, others saying its terrible. Its hard to get an unbiased answer after years of thrashing desktop IE.
Although IE has been updated to 9 with Mangoo which is a decent browser, i would expect the same problems Opara gets with cutting edge stuff: You are very lucky if the app got tested for IE. I never encountered serious problems though, even with IE7.
An important caveat: IE9 mobile does not support @font-face.
Re: Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Although IE has been updated to 9 with Mangoo which is a decent browser, i would expect the same problems Opara gets with cutting edge stuff: You are very lucky if the app got tested for IE. I never encountered serious problems though, even with IE7.
IE getting punished by the marketplace for not adhering to standards?! The prayers of a hundred thousand angry webdevs have surely been answered :-)
you assume that most websites care about standards. They don't.[1] Writing truly standards compliant html is too much hassle for most people out there, and brings next to nothing in value. What they do is test it against the important implementations: On the desktop IE 7+, Firefox 3+, Chrome. For mobile sites they test for both webkit flavors, and that's it.
Again, IE mobile is facing the same problems as Opara: Both are very decent browsers, but they have different ways of handling the strange corner cases in the tag soup out there than the market leaders.
errata: The web has become a lot better w/r to standards in the last couple of years. Like I said before, I've encountered very few glitches with IE7, and none so far with IE9.
[1]http://html5.validator.nu/?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.ycombinator...
Re: Nokia announces the Lumia 800, the 'first real Windows Phone'
#40For t-mobile america users/cheapskates: it's quad-band 3G unlike the N9's penta-band 3G, so I don't see this phone selling on t-mobile at all.
Too bad though, I've been wanting to replace my nexus one with a well-designed easily jailbreakable/sim-unlockable os.