Journalists can't write about something like the element without talking about Elon Musks' tweets. It's an unhealthy obsession and I'm kinda sick of hearing about it.
The ‘Form’ Element Created the Modern Web. Was It a Big Mistake?
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Re: The ‘Form’ Element Created the Modern Web. Was It a Big Mistake?
#32I think the form field certainly influenced the particular technical evolution path the web and internet took, but I also think it's not the reason we have social networks or e-commerce. Those were extremely compelling usecases even before the web and I don't think any particular technology was the reason, they got so big. That was probably more due to economic or social factors. My guess is even without the form fie…
Heck, even print technology implemented ‘forms’ technology - there is a standard UX affordance of a dotted line with scissors drawn on it to tell you that a piece of printed material supports cutting out a form, filling it and mailing it in. These forms were showing up in magazines, on cereal packets, back for over a century… the catalog industry was built on this tech.
Basically, if you create an information distribution medium, someone will turn it into a form delivery platform. It’s inevitable.
Re: The ‘Form’ Element Created the Modern Web. Was It a Big Mistake?
#33I kept reading, thinking that there must be something somewhere that would tie things together in any meaningful way, but nope, nothing. It could be transplanted to The Onion with only a few modifications and fit much better there as some type of absurdist piece of humour.
Re: The ‘Form’ Element Created the Modern Web. Was It a Big Mistake?
#34If HTML didn't have a tag, then HTML and the web would still be a fairly marginal technology, and something else most likely would have existed where all these problems occurred. Maybe we'd all be complaining about how IRC is radicalizing people or something. A repository full of static documents isn't really all that interesting. That's basically a library on a computer. Even in the very earliest days of the web, pe…
Re: The ‘Form’ Element Created the Modern Web. Was It a Big Mistake?
#35If HTML didn't have a tag, then HTML and the web would still be a fairly marginal technology, and something else most likely would have existed where all these problems occurred. Maybe we'd all be complaining about how IRC is radicalizing people or something. A repository full of static documents isn't really all that interesting. That's basically a library on a computer. Even in the very earliest days of the web, pe…
Re: The ‘Form’ Element Created the Modern Web. Was It a Big Mistake?
#36Well, actually there's still quite some old DNA in our genes, and we still go through various past forms as an embryo. Also we still got a tailbone despite not having a tail anymore, and a lot of similar cruft.
Re: The ‘Form’ Element Created the Modern Web. Was It a Big Mistake?
#37Really? MDN web docs indicate a lot of deprecated/obsolate codes.
Re: The ‘Form’ Element Created the Modern Web. Was It a Big Mistake?
#38Paul Ford must spend a non-negligible amount of time sitting around thinking: “What’s the dumbest thing I could get Wired or Bloomberg to publish?” And to be absolutely pedantic: He shouldn’t be mad about forms and inputs, they can be used with the read-only web (GET params) and have client-side only uses (calculations.) Given what he’s trying to say, the headline should be: “The ‘HTTP POST’ Method Created the Modern…
Re: The ‘Form’ Element Created the Modern Web. Was It a Big Mistake?
#39To quote the late great Douglas Adams, "Many were increasingly of the opinion that they'd all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. And some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no one should ever have left the oceans."
Re: The ‘Form’ Element Created the Modern Web. Was It a Big Mistake?
#40>THE WEB WAS born to publish documents—in particular, physics papers from CERN, the great laboratory where Tim Berners-Lee, [...] I have argued many times, to the despair of anyone within range, that the element was a pivot point for the entire technology industry. It is what changed the web from a read-only medium for physics papers into a read-write medium for anything. Tim Berners-Lee also invented the HTTP protoc…
HTTP 0.9 (1991) only had GET. HTTP 1.0 is from 1996.