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Apple Removes Flag Icons in Monterey 12.4

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Re: Apple Removes Flag Icons in Monterey 12.4

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Flags are not languages: http://www.flagsarenotlanguages.com/blog/why-flags-do-not-re...

Arguably it makes a little more sense for keyboard layouts, but even then.

Edit: also with alternative layouts. Is Dvorak English? If you want you can create your own keyboard layout with Ukulele https://software.sil.org/ukelele/ (or edit an existing one) and change the icon to any image.

Re: Apple Removes Flag Icons in Monterey 12.4

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The Unicode Consortium has indicated they won't accept new flags as emoji. https://www.engadget.com/unicode-no-flag-emoji-please-131509... Given this, it's a sensible move; it won't be long before the available set no longer reflects the full set of countries.

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Re: Apple Removes Flag Icons in Monterey 12.4

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I 100% applaud this. I've always used ABC Extended because I thought a flag in the system menu was gaudy and weirdly nationalistic. I know I live in the US and use the American English keyboard layout. Similarly, I don't need a Chinese flag every time I switch to a Chinese keyboard.

What's wrong with nationalism? Do you also think supporting your local community is weird?

Nothing is wrong with nationalism, especially the Penn Jillette brand of nationalism you seem to be advocating for. I'm just not flag-obsessed and find it weird to have a flag in my periphery for ten hours a day.

Re: Apple Removes Flag Icons in Monterey 12.4

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post #12
post #4

The Unicode Consortium has indicated they won't accept new flags as emoji. https://www.engadget.com/unicode-no-flag-emoji-please-131509... Given this, it's a sensible move; it won't be long before the available set no longer reflects the full set of countries.

Related issue I hadn't thought of before: what happens if the flag is changed? Suppose it partly depends if the unicode description is 'flag of the country blah' or blazon-style description of what it looks like.

Font vendors update their fonts, I'd guess.

Re: Apple Removes Flag Icons in Monterey 12.4

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post #15

I 100% applaud this. I've always used ABC Extended because I thought a flag in the system menu was gaudy and weirdly nationalistic. I know I live in the US and use the American English keyboard layout. Similarly, I don't need a Chinese flag every time I switch to a Chinese keyboard.

What's wrong with nationalism? Do you also think supporting your local community is weird?

Do I support my "local community" when I type on a given keyboard layout ? And when I switch the layout because I need to type in a different script, do I betray my "local community" ? And what about I live in a country that's not my "original" local community and need to use yet another layout ? Do I feel insecure when I don't see a flag I know in my menu bar ?

Re: Apple Removes Flag Icons in Monterey 12.4

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Was there ever a Taiwanese or Chinese flag there? I’m using an older version of the OS and I see tons of Chinese input methods, but none of them are associated with flags (which wouldn’t make sense to me anyway).

Same as Japanese. Japanese is a near perfect correspondence between language and national identity, but none of the Japanese input methods use a flag.

This doesn’t seem like it would be related to China or Taiwan in any way.

Re: Apple Removes Flag Icons in Monterey 12.4

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The problem isn't Apple. The Taiwan question is not something that should (or can) be dealt with by corporations - it is something to be solved by politicians and governments.

China demands suppressing everything that even hints of Taiwan not being an independent country, even outside of its borders? Fine, sanction them to hell and beyond.

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