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Firefox appears to be flagged as suspicious by Cloudflare

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Re: Firefox appears to be flagged as suspicious by Cloudflare

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Incredible. I just changed my user-agent whilst on the Google Chrome browser. * Changing to Firefox immediately displayed the Cloudflare error message * Edge had no errors * Chrome had no errors * Safari had no errors Edit: Even internet explorer 9, android kitkat, and the opera browser had no errors. Edit 2: as another user has pointed out, this is most likely a firewall rule put in place by the website operator the…

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Re: Firefox appears to be flagged as suspicious by Cloudflare

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We're regressing to a state reminiscent of the dark IE years. Except back then when you suggested alternative browsers, people were generally receptive once they saw the practical utility of features like tabs. Now when you suggest alternative browsers, people complain about tens of milliseconds more latency and insist on using Chrome for the speed. It's hard to blame them though, since the practical advantages of Fi…

Even if FOSS fans don't like it, it is iOS/Safari that is the last block preventing the Web platform to be finally renamed to Chrome OS.

Liking it is beyond the point, it isn't available for me to use unless I replace my phone and computers. But yes I think you're right, Firefox has become so thoroughly marginalized that Safari seems like the last meaningful resistance to the Chrome monoculture.

Re: Firefox appears to be flagged as suspicious by Cloudflare

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A workaround is to install the Privacy Pass extension to bypass the captchas [1] [2] It's an open source extension available for Chrome and Firefox. It allows to privately identify you're human, and is the process of going through IETF standardisation, so hopefully someday you won't need to install an extension for it. After you complete a captcha once, you won't need to do it again for a long time. I'm not happy abo…

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Re: Firefox appears to be flagged as suspicious by Cloudflare

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> Open-source browsers are an important part of the web and should not be treated differently than their closed-source counterparts.

One way to interpret that is they should all have the same suspicion rules for lack of popularity applied to them. One way Cloudflare's rules could be causing this is if there's some threshold for fingerprints-per-second under which any UA is considered sus, and Firefox's market share is so low that it tends to fall under that threshold.

In which case, what lwt hiker is asking for is special treatment for the browser because they believe the Mozilla project's browser has special value to the web ecosystem. Which they are allowed to believe, but let's be clear about when we're seeking special treatment vs. being treated like any other user agent.

Re: Firefox appears to be flagged as suspicious by Cloudflare

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Deanonymizing yourself just to appease cloudflare is not a valid solution. Any website should work in any browser out of the box. If they don't, the website is broken.

"The blind signing procedure ensures that passes that are redeemed in the future are not feasibly linkable to those that are signed. We use a privacy-preserving cryptographic protocol based on ‘Verifiable, Oblivious Pseudorandom Functions’ (VOPRFs) built from elliptic curves to enforce unlinkability. The protocol is exceptionally fast and guarantees privacy for the user. As such, Privacy Pass is safe to use for those…

Sorry, can I get a layman's translation? What prevents websites from using Privacy Pass to track user behavior? (Beyond determining who is and is not a bot.)
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