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Steve’s Final “One More Thing…”

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Re: Steve’s Final “One More Thing…”

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Post by technoslut »

samstave wrote: post #23
vph wrote: post #6

>Revolutionizing textbooks may seem a bit ho-hum by Jobs’ standards, but it’s pretty clear that Jobs was passionate about the U.S. education system, and felt this country was falling behind. Oh please, Steve Job showed very little -- if not zero -- passion about the US education system. He was an inventor and entrepreneur. If these guys want to talk about someone who is passionate about the US education system, talk…

Jobs was an amazing capitalist. He was the epitome of an exploitrepreneur. We are happy with what he achieved - but lets have no delusions about how he operated and built his position and fame. Take 5K for building something he paid Woz $375 for (breakout)...

I don't think anyone is trying to portray Jobs as a saint. If look into any great man, or anyone else for that matter, you are going to find things that you do not like.

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chugger wrote: post #19
vph wrote: post #6

>Revolutionizing textbooks may seem a bit ho-hum by Jobs’ standards, but it’s pretty clear that Jobs was passionate about the U.S. education system, and felt this country was falling behind. Oh please, Steve Job showed very little -- if not zero -- passion about the US education system. He was an inventor and entrepreneur. If these guys want to talk about someone who is passionate about the US education system, talk…

Steve Jobs was passionate about education. You need to read more about him.

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Post by suking »

grkhetan wrote: post #24
suking wrote: post #13

I wish MG would just stick to the crunchfund - that little guy is the most annoying writer.

I know he loves Apple, but that does not mean his articles are junk. In fact, they are quite the opposite. I love his article writing style, his logical approach to thinking, his ability to dig information (like his frequent articles on things going on in the google chrome project, Facebook insider info, apple insider info, etc), his ability to make articles interesting, etc. One needs to read his articles with an op…

I strongly disagree - Apple could never do wrong in his eyes - he is way too biased.

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Post by mcantelon »

lparry wrote: post #14
mcantelon wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google and Sony worked together to create integrated "Internet TVs" (which hit the market a year ago) although I don't think they sold well.

well if someone else already tried, I guess there's no point. It's not like Apple has ever entered into a market segment already entered by rivals who are doing poorly and shown them how it's done. Oh wait, they did that with the iPod. And iPhone. And the iPad. But you're right, there's no way they do make a successful tv if Google and Sony already tried it and it didnt go well

I was responding to indicate that it has been done before, not saying that it can't ever be done successfully.

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Post by extension »

ramanujan wrote: post #22
ecito wrote: post #7

I'm probably being short-sighted, but I fail to see what else could you add to a TV that you couldn't already by attaching some device to it.. it's like saying Jobs will revolutionize the computer monitor. It's just a display.

Ok, let's take a crack at this. 1) iPhone as remote: First, they would probably allow iPhones, iPads, and iPod touches to be used as remotes. That would be the recommended use case, and in fact they've already got this with the new iOS5 Airplay: http://www.apple.com/ipad/features/airplay.html 2) TVs are lean back: Next, the key question is: what is the difference between a TV and a computer monitor? They are convergi…

They won't use the iPhone as a remote. It's a personal device that lives in your pocket. The remote is a household device that lives on the coffee table. And you can't use a touchscreen while looking at something else.

The interface will be something magical, like a Wiimote. In fact, it may be exactly like a Wiimote. Whatever it is, it will be great for using an on-screen interface, and also for games. Yep, I can't see them making a TV that isn't a gaming platform.

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Post by dools »

DilipJ wrote: post #20
dools wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Touch screen?

No, a touchscreen tv would be horrible. That goes back to the RCA days where you had to get up and go to the tv to change the channels using the knob. There's nothing wrong with the remote, just that it is starting to get very confusing to use (too many buttons). If Apple can find a way to make the modern remote less complex that would be a step in the right direction.

There's a lot of functionality you could achieve in a touch screen that would fucking suck in a remote

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Post by DilipJ »

dools wrote: post #36
DilipJ wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, a touchscreen tv would be horrible. That goes back to the RCA days where you had to get up and go to the tv to change the channels using the knob. There's nothing wrong with the remote, just that it is starting to get very confusing to use (too many buttons). If Apple can find a way to make the modern remote less complex that would be a step in the right direction.

There's a lot of functionality you could achieve in a touch screen that would fucking suck in a remote

such as?

Re: Steve’s Final “One More Thing…”

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Post by dools »

DilipJ wrote: post #38
dools wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a lot of functionality you could achieve in a touch screen that would fucking suck in a remote

such as?

Sorry, just noticed this. Okay - how about this: organising your screen with various different views of the same sports match. So imagine you're watching a game of Rugby and "sports broadcasts of the future", given they have access to digital TV channels that are far less restricted by physical bandwidth, broadcast continuous streams of the coach, the bench, the score board, the commentators, the crowd and different camera angles on different streams, as well as the main "professionally edited" stream. You drag windows around and resize them to organise the various channels you're interested in into a custom viewing configuration.
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