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Re: WordPress’ market share is shrinking

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Post by paulryanrogers »

ozten wrote: post #24

Freelance developers selling WordPress to their clients (and who build custom themes and plugins) are being ignored by WP core and they are regularly broken by changes. It seems like Automatic is optimizing for Wix marketshare and abandoning some of it's key champions. I think they could have avoided much of this by listening to these devs, having backwards compatible designs, and slowing down to produce higher quali…

Strange to hear BC breaks are common since its architecture screams procedural and dated. Though some of that could be they still technically support PHP 5.

Re: WordPress’ market share is shrinking

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Post by pipeline_peak »

goldcd wrote: post #23

I think the "private website" space is shrinking - despite what adverts for Wix and Squarespace might infer. The consumer/blog space of geocities, tripod and the like went to social media. Then we went through a period of "businesses putting up 10 pages for a fixed price" through first of all "a local web guy" then by themselves using Wix/WP/SS etc. I've just had a bathroom fitted by a guy who functions purely on Ins…

I see saying, blogs have definitely been shrinking. The web is too large and complex to be discovered unless your service is within one of the 5 or so major social platforms. To own a domain is almost a status symbol, letting users know “we are an established entity”.

It’s pretty revealing when a local bar cover band or a Chinese restaurant has its own website. It’s almost always decrepit in maintenance and low traffic (as if it could handle more).

Wordpress, Blogspot, and all these other template engine/blog platform things were the Web 2.0 answer, but I don’t think those types of services are going away. It’s a skill to implement a modern site not many people want to learn or hire when these platforms exist. Plenty of domain sites are powered by them. I just think this post is a telltale sign Wordpress is in a saturated market.

Re: WordPress’ market share is shrinking

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Post by synicalx »

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Wordpress, is in fact, Plugin-hell/Wordpress, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Plugins plus Wordpress.

Wordpress is not an ecommerce system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning ecommerce system made useful by the freemium plugins, security vulnerabilities and PHP comprising a full CMS as defined by POSIX.

Re: WordPress’ market share is shrinking

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Post by ozten »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #31
ozten wrote: post #24

Freelance developers selling WordPress to their clients (and who build custom themes and plugins) are being ignored by WP core and they are regularly broken by changes. It seems like Automatic is optimizing for Wix marketshare and abandoning some of it's key champions. I think they could have avoided much of this by listening to these devs, having backwards compatible designs, and slowing down to produce higher quali…

Strange to hear BC breaks are common since its architecture screams procedural and dated. Though some of that could be they still technically support PHP 5.

Gutenberg brings React and a block architecture. That blurs the lines between "chrome" and end-user styles. This is more at the CSS and React level. The amount of !important CSS rules going into core is kind of terrifying.

Re: WordPress’ market share is shrinking

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Post by mitchdoogle »

andybak wrote: post #13
justinator wrote: post #4

Chances I will ever use Squarespace or Wix: 0%.

Well I guess chances I will ever use Squarespace, Wix or Wordpress: ~0%. But I'm not sure what that adds to the conversation without some background context on our requirements, use-cases or constraints?

In my opinion, the main difference between those is that you can self-host WordPress, so you can have full control over your site. Wix and Squarespace are hosted on their own servers. It's a lot easier, from a development point of view, to customize WordPress to do what you want.

Re: WordPress’ market share is shrinking

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Post by aceazzameen »

Recently I considered building a new site with WordPress. I haven't used it in years, and looking at it again I didn't think it's the right fit anymore. It feels too limiting maybe?

Right now I'm considering going the https://www.11ty.dev route instead. Anyone have any good experiences with it?

Re: WordPress’ market share is shrinking

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Post by lancesells »

goldcd wrote: post #23

I think the "private website" space is shrinking - despite what adverts for Wix and Squarespace might infer. The consumer/blog space of geocities, tripod and the like went to social media. Then we went through a period of "businesses putting up 10 pages for a fixed price" through first of all "a local web guy" then by themselves using Wix/WP/SS etc. I've just had a bathroom fitted by a guy who functions purely on Ins…

IMO Wordpress is very much in the domain of the SEO / Adwords crowd. People that want their site to rank and bring in traffic for ads. There are millions upon millions of domains that people want to make money on.

Re: WordPress’ market share is shrinking

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Post by mitchdoogle »

goldcd wrote: post #23

I think the "private website" space is shrinking - despite what adverts for Wix and Squarespace might infer. The consumer/blog space of geocities, tripod and the like went to social media. Then we went through a period of "businesses putting up 10 pages for a fixed price" through first of all "a local web guy" then by themselves using Wix/WP/SS etc. I've just had a bathroom fitted by a guy who functions purely on Ins…

What are the dedicated CMS for industries? And do they cost the same as WordPress (free)?

Re: WordPress’ market share is shrinking

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Post by stefanos82 »

synicalx wrote: post #33

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Wordpress, is in fact, Plugin-hell/Wordpress, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Plugins plus Wordpress. Wordpress is not an ecommerce system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning ecommerce system made useful by the freemium plugins, security vulnerabilities and PHP comprising a full CMS as defined by POSIX.

You have confused Operating System with Content Management System here...POSIX has nothing to do with CMS; as its name stands POSIX means "Portable Operating System Interface".

Re: WordPress’ market share is shrinking

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Post by IAmEveryone »

goldcd wrote: post #23

I think the "private website" space is shrinking - despite what adverts for Wix and Squarespace might infer. The consumer/blog space of geocities, tripod and the like went to social media. Then we went through a period of "businesses putting up 10 pages for a fixed price" through first of all "a local web guy" then by themselves using Wix/WP/SS etc. I've just had a bathroom fitted by a guy who functions purely on Ins…

Indeed. All the second-hand clothing stores are on instagram. All the drug dealers are on telegram.
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