Related, the old school non-startup version of this is at https://www.thelayoff.com
The real old school startup version was
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucked_Company
Ahead of his time, my man Pud was.
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#32As a person actively applying in EU... the market reeks candidate desperation. Salaries remained constant or even decreased in numbers despite over 10% inflation. Zero flexibility on the employer side "need 5 years of SRE experience for SRE position, need 5 years of DevOps experience for DevOps position, etc". WTF is going on. With the perspective of mangling my brain on the "next cool" Angular stack I'll remain work…
EU is pretty big and varied, the markets in Spain, Slovenia and Estonia are probably quite different, let alone per city. I can assure you none of what you said applies to France (at least Paris but many of the jobs i see/saw/interviewed for were fully remote, so I don't see why they wouldn't accept people from other areas of France).
France resident here, anecdotal evidence, but Paris (and IDF) companies tend to only accept +100% match (close to 100% requirements + big chunk of the "nice to haves") for remote positions. If you miss anything from their stack they just pick someone else since the pool is much bigger. If you live in IDF they seem to care less about you being a perfect fit.
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#33As a person actively applying in EU... the market reeks candidate desperation. Salaries remained constant or even decreased in numbers despite over 10% inflation. Zero flexibility on the employer side "need 5 years of SRE experience for SRE position, need 5 years of DevOps experience for DevOps position, etc". WTF is going on. With the perspective of mangling my brain on the "next cool" Angular stack I'll remain work…
As someone who changed job last year, I didn't feel that pressure. My anecdotal experience was pretty much the opposite. I was looking for remote work, could be related?
What time last year? Inflation has advanced quite a bit even since November.
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#34As a person actively applying in EU... the market reeks candidate desperation. Salaries remained constant or even decreased in numbers despite over 10% inflation. Zero flexibility on the employer side "need 5 years of SRE experience for SRE position, need 5 years of DevOps experience for DevOps position, etc". WTF is going on. With the perspective of mangling my brain on the "next cool" Angular stack I'll remain work…
have you tried applying to US-based startups with offices in EU?
pay is 2x average + bonuses/stock options
still nowhere near US though
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#35Related, the old school non-startup version of this is at https://www.thelayoff.com
The real old school startup version was https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucked_Company Ahead of his time, my man Pud was.
And they’re an active HN contributor.
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#36Related, the old school non-startup version of this is at https://www.thelayoff.com
Wow it has an active comment section - very interesting link!
Keep in mind that these communities are affected by what I call a "reddit effect" - they tend to be negative, so only people who dislike the company go there, creating a toxic negativity feedback loop. Same as many major subreddits which thrive on negativity and outrage. Take whatever you read there with a grain of salt.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
I just got a job in the EU by watching on my desired commute path for new company signs I hadn't noticed before, then researching them. I found a startup in an industry that interested me, made an effort to network my way into the eyes of the CEO, and then made myself available when he had work available. The whole process took 9 months. The front door of companies is always locked due to the unintended consequences…
9 months is an absolutely stupidly long for an EU position. The pay is so meh that it is not worth it
9 months is a typical amount of time it takes to network your way into a company.
The key is patience, persistence, keeping multiple options open, flexibility, and understanding the needs of your future colleagues. When it works it looks lucky, but you can't rush "luck" of this type. :)
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#38The chart gives an impression that most of these happened in Q1-2 of 2020 and everything has more or less settled since then. Or am I missing something?
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is ugly? I'm a millennial and this seems to happen every 10 years. Should this be any different?
We only need to go back a couple of years to mid 2020 when every company was laying people off. Layoffs.fyi was tracking multiple new rounds every day. I fear what is coming is going to be that or worse.
What are you doing to prepare?
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
I just got a job in the EU by watching on my desired commute path for new company signs I hadn't noticed before, then researching them. I found a startup in an industry that interested me, made an effort to network my way into the eyes of the CEO, and then made myself available when he had work available. The whole process took 9 months. The front door of companies is always locked due to the unintended consequences…
9 months is an absolutely stupidly long for an EU position. The pay is so meh that it is not worth it
I've generally taken at least that long looking for new jobs.
It depends on whether you want /a/ position, or /the/ position. My past few jobs have been perfect fits for my background and interests, and I genuinely enjoyed work.
A random SWE position is petty fungible. Perfect fits are rare. Markets are pretty inefficient too, so you can command better salary or benefits, if you want.