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Cloud Pricing Comparison: AWS vs. Azure vs. Google Cloud Platform in 2022

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Re: Cloud Pricing Comparison: AWS vs. Azure vs. Google Cloud Platform in 2022

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Post by tatersolid »

stingraycharles wrote: post #6
uuyi wrote: post #2

These comparisons are fairly meaningless even on IaaS only class deployments. Instance costs aren't necessarily the biggest cost or the best cost optimisation path in the cloud. For example our S3 costs are higher than our EC2 costs and we made a productive saving implementing lifecycle and S3 IA migration. The biggest EC2 cost reduction we made was through careful analysis and moving some stuff to Lambda, not by cha…

I fully agree with this: to generalize, it’s useless to look at just prices, you really need to take performance and other parts into consideration too. For example, we rely heavily on storage (with deployments in the 100TB - 1PB range), where we have a lot of churn in data and as such require a lot of throughput. AWS’s GP3 EBS volumes offer 1GB/sec throughout each at a really attractive price, there simply isn’t any…

Azure Premium P80 disks offer 900 MB/s provisioned throughput plus higher bursts. 32 TiB in size though, so not a fit for use cases where you just want small but fast disks. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/virtual-machines/disk...

Re: Cloud Pricing Comparison: AWS vs. Azure vs. Google Cloud Platform in 2022

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Post by antifa »

cesarb wrote: post #10

I see no mention of bandwidth pricing. Some time ago, I evaluated the pricing for someone who was thinking of moving a web server from a traditional private server to AWS. It seemed that the monthly cost would be lower, until I looked at the bandwidth cost. The monthly price of that traditional private server, which included a fixed bandwidth limit, ended up being lower than what it would cost just for the bandwidth…

I'm really suprised you found a VPS that was cheaper before AWS bandwidth kicks in, usually that's only possible with serverless.

Re: Cloud Pricing Comparison: AWS vs. Azure vs. Google Cloud Platform in 2022

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Post by belter »

dijit wrote: post #23
pid-1 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Generally for EC2 AWS is transparent about which CPU model and clock speed they are using. For other services, not so much. Like, is 1 CPU / Memory in Fargate the same as in App Runner and Lambda?

Even minescule differences in the hypervisor makes a big difference, also things like over subscription which (used) to be common in AWS meaning limited or varying memory bandwidth. Hell, Brendan Gregg, father of observability, noticed a 10x performance difference of machines of the same type inside AWS and that’s before talking about different providers. GCP is also quite transparent with their CPU capabilities. But…

I am familiar with Brendan Gregg work, but do you have a reference for the point you mentioned of 10x performance difference for machines of the same type?

Re: Cloud Pricing Comparison: AWS vs. Azure vs. Google Cloud Platform in 2022

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Post by dijit »

belter wrote: post #33
dijit wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even minescule differences in the hypervisor makes a big difference, also things like over subscription which (used) to be common in AWS meaning limited or varying memory bandwidth. Hell, Brendan Gregg, father of observability, noticed a 10x performance difference of machines of the same type inside AWS and that’s before talking about different providers. GCP is also quite transparent with their CPU capabilities. But…

I am familiar with Brendan Gregg work, but do you have a reference for the point you mentioned of 10x performance difference for machines of the same type?

it was actually 5x, my bad, but here's the references:

Original info being mentioned as a rumour (2016): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYbgcDfM2Ts&t=1631s

Slides for confirmation by Greeg (2017): https://www.brendangregg.com/Slides/AWSreInvent2017_performa...

Talk (2017): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89fYOo1V2pA

More discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/aws/comments/547xbx/netflix_found_5...

Original tweet has been deleted, but I have a screenshot here slide 9: https://sh.drk.sc/~dijit/devfest2019-msv.pdf

Re: Cloud Pricing Comparison: AWS vs. Azure vs. Google Cloud Platform in 2022

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Post by belter »

dijit wrote: post #34
belter wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am familiar with Brendan Gregg work, but do you have a reference for the point you mentioned of 10x performance difference for machines of the same type?

it was actually 5x, my bad, but here's the references: Original info being mentioned as a rumour (2016): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYbgcDfM2Ts&t=1631s Slides for confirmation by Greeg (2017): https://www.brendangregg.com/Slides/AWSreInvent2017_performa... Talk (2017): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89fYOo1V2pA More discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/aws/comments/547xbx/netflix_found_5... Original tweet has b…

Thanks! Looking at pag 9 of the presentation it seems the comment would talk about Performance differences, at the same price, not of the same type.

While looking at the StrangeLoop presentation it would be 5x difference for the same type.

I am skeptical. Need to dig deeper here.

Edit: Ok. I was already familiar with the Brendan Gregg presentation you shared. I have just carefully reviewed what you kindly shared. Particularly the Reddit discussion and I think this come up out of a misunderstanding.

Brendan Gregg does not mention it on his presentation. I would be shocked that he would omit mention of such a possibility. Many users in the Reddit discussion tried to investigate such a scenarios and could not observe it, other than the +/- variation expected with instances like T2/T3.

So I think somebody heard variance ( possible with the T2/T3) -> then also variance on performance for same price ( but possibly different types) -> Then variance with workloads and over time of a deployment. And that might explain it.

But none of the resources helps point to actual factual statement. I am not saying it's not possible. Only that personally I have not seen it, and I also have not seen other than tweets and rumors. ( That could be true but not with the evidence seen so far.)

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