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Endemic Pathogens Are Making You Crazy and Then Killing You

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Re: Endemic Pathogens Are Making You Crazy and Then Killing You

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Post by 77pt77 »

Tehchops wrote: post #9
0x20cowboy wrote: post #7

I have no proof (or way to test this), but I’ve thought for a while that some pathogen has infected a good number of people, and damaged their brains. I find it hard to understand many people’s transition into madness any other way. I am not talking about “I believe bubble up economics you believe trickle down so you’re crazy” kind of disagreements, I mean stuff like “lizard people from planet nibiru are eating the c…

It is possible they were always that susceptible(I suspect they were), someone just needed the means for mass delivery and when it was available(social media) they weaponized it at just the right time.

How do you think religions came about?

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Post by dyim »

xkbarkar wrote: post #26
fswd wrote: post #21

my doctor and I had a recent discussion about exactly this. Just incredibly bizarre behavior from people with no explanation. I asked if it could be caused by parasites. She brought up a study in LA where they tested the homeless for Babesia, and many people tested positive. Sorry I did not get the link for this study, but it is plausible. I'm not even sure how we can as a society even address this. One of the treatm…

Out of curiosity, what is the treatment?

also curious; nothing on this page looks controversial (https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/babesiosis/health_professional...), unless you believe that doctors are wrongly overprescribing azithromycin. (which is fair! but probably not conversation-killingly controversial)

Re: Endemic Pathogens Are Making You Crazy and Then Killing You

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Post by ben_w »

vmception wrote: post #18
jjulius wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Make sense or nah? Nah. Hard nah. I don't quite understand how you went from, "I'm an enthusiastic researcher who enjoys..." to, "Ivermectin works on Republicans because Republicans live in squalor so they have worms but we don't know if Ivermectin actually works against COVID or not because our healthcare system sucks."

We know that ivermectin doesnt work on covid, it works on worms People with worms only notice they have a problem after getting sick with covid How did you read that differently Read it again

I suspect the thing people are anchoring on is the word “republican”. I’ve heard a similar claim about the mechanism you describe, but it was with regard to a group actually likely to have worms — I don’t have a strong reason to think the USA has a worm problem, despite all the anger I see directed at the American medical system.

Re: Endemic Pathogens Are Making You Crazy and Then Killing You

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Post by macintux »

xkbarkar wrote: post #26
fswd wrote: post #21

my doctor and I had a recent discussion about exactly this. Just incredibly bizarre behavior from people with no explanation. I asked if it could be caused by parasites. She brought up a study in LA where they tested the homeless for Babesia, and many people tested positive. Sorry I did not get the link for this study, but it is plausible. I'm not even sure how we can as a society even address this. One of the treatm…

Out of curiosity, what is the treatment?

I’d assume ivermectin, since it’s a parasite treatment.

Re: Endemic Pathogens Are Making You Crazy and Then Killing You

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Post by throwawayben »

0x20cowboy wrote: post #7

I have no proof (or way to test this), but I’ve thought for a while that some pathogen has infected a good number of people, and damaged their brains. I find it hard to understand many people’s transition into madness any other way. I am not talking about “I believe bubble up economics you believe trickle down so you’re crazy” kind of disagreements, I mean stuff like “lizard people from planet nibiru are eating the c…

The isolation from covid restrictions, combined with loads of the major conspiracy talking points coming true[0], could easily lead people down this big rabbit hole if their brain is so inclined. I know my brain tends to think in this way and I really felt the pull into crazy land. I mostly avoided going too far and as things have opened up I think I'm now back to a more reasonable view of reality, but I have sympathy for and understanding of the people who became this way recently.

[0] mandatory vaccinations, health passports, cashless society, great reset, etc etc

Re: Endemic Pathogens Are Making You Crazy and Then Killing You

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Post by iinnPP »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #22
vmception wrote: post #11

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> they arent checking people with worms because nobody knows they have worms, thanks to the state of our healthcare I have decent healthcare. I don’t think I’ve been explicitly checked for worms recently. Maybe in the bloodwork? This is honestly one of the better ivermectin hypotheses I’ve come across. It doesn’t deserve to be downvoted, particularly within the context of the article, which set a low bar for evidence…

I always thought it was just the placebo effect.

Re: Endemic Pathogens Are Making You Crazy and Then Killing You

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Post by vmception »

jjulius wrote: post #30
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they arent checking people with worms because nobody knows they have worms, thanks to the state of our healthcare I have decent healthcare. I don’t think I’ve been explicitly checked for worms recently. Maybe in the bloodwork? This is honestly one of the better ivermectin hypotheses I’ve come across. It doesn’t deserve to be downvoted, particularly within the context of the article, which set a low bar for evidence…

The "rural squalor" assumption doesn't help with the downvotes. That's a fairly derogatory blanket generalization, and whether or not statistics back OP up they could choose better verbiage.

Oh, I didn't think that part would be controversial, its where you get parasites and why the combination is a hit with one political party. A subset live in the middle of nowhere with poor infrastructure, the people out there aren't of other political parties because those other parties dont acknowledge them as well. I thought that would be clear. Its not about people that dont live in those environments and are also republican. You have to understand us identity politics to know why that wasn’t supposed to be derogatory. its supposed to be emphasis for effect, and accurate.

this is an example of other political parties not even giving them the benefit of the doubt to look into why it could possibly be working out for them. or even considering the errors in the models.

Re: Endemic Pathogens Are Making You Crazy and Then Killing You

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Post by WFHRenaissance »

0x20cowboy wrote: post #7

I have no proof (or way to test this), but I’ve thought for a while that some pathogen has infected a good number of people, and damaged their brains. I find it hard to understand many people’s transition into madness any other way. I am not talking about “I believe bubble up economics you believe trickle down so you’re crazy” kind of disagreements, I mean stuff like “lizard people from planet nibiru are eating the c…

I think that the current legitimacy crisis is the cause for this. Once you have one core source/belief invalidated, it's super easy to slide into more fringe views.

Re: Endemic Pathogens Are Making You Crazy and Then Killing You

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Post by vmception »

ben_w wrote: post #33
vmception wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We know that ivermectin doesnt work on covid, it works on worms People with worms only notice they have a problem after getting sick with covid How did you read that differently Read it again

I suspect the thing people are anchoring on is the word “republican”. I’ve heard a similar claim about the mechanism you describe, but it was with regard to a group actually likely to have worms — I don’t have a strong reason to think the USA has a worm problem, despite all the anger I see directed at the American medical system.

yeah I led with a lot of trigger words, it just wouldn't be accurate to pretend there is a more generalized group of people that would seek it. that drug doesn't/didnt get airtime as a remedy in non-republican news sources.

> I don’t have a strong reason to think the USA has a worm problem

Two thoughts on that

1) I don't know if we really need to quantify it. We need to verify/validate that this pipeline happens. Worms -> Covid -> Ivermectin -> less deaths/hospitalizations, but maybe we could just give it to people. Just throw it in the drug cocktail for treatment.

2) We already do this in some cases. Untreated but latent gonorrhea can cause miscarriages. People planning pregancies get a variety of preparatory treatments from doctors, within the long list of stuff can be a gonorrhea treatment, just by default. There is no need to even test for it, "hun I've only been with youuuuu where did this positive result for gonorrhea come frommmmm", we just spare everyone that conversation and just give the treatment for it to help avoid the complications or miscarriage. I could honestly see the same for Ivermectin.

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