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Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Is it social media? Or is it also the knowledge that they effectively have no future. Rent is going up and mortgage rates are going up faster. A shrinking portion of young adults can now afford housing. The economy is becoming so disfunctional there's almost no reason to bother participating. When children end up in that position their family will turn on them and they have nothing materially or socially.

> Rent is going up and mortgage rates are going up faster. A shrinking portion of young adults can now afford housing. The economy is becoming so disfunctional there's almost no reason to bother participating. When children end up in that position their family will turn on them and they have nothing materially or socially.

This sounds exactly like you are reading too much social media.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you are taking what he is saying out of context and being very dishonest about it. He is not talking about diversity meaning he doesn't want different races or sexualities involved in the country. He is talking about the extreme fracturing of groups that is driven by social media. I see this in my everyday life. Browsing any forum, almost every view expressed by any person is polarized to some side. However,…

Direct quote ! “ We have this idea diversity is good, and diversity has many good effects, but diversity also makes things come apart for a large secular nation like the United States what are the forces holding us together, what are the things blowing us apart, diversity makes group more creative when you have good norms..”

He claims traditionally a country is held together by “shared gods, shared blood, and shared enemies”.

What is he saying, the issue is, this is a multi-faith, multi-ethnic country? I say, Professor Haidt, the train has left this station, America has progressed, it is not going back to “shared blood” and “shared gods” anymore. You better get used to some diversity.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Yes, rent is expensive, but it’s more than possible to make your way in today’s world provided you don’t fall behind due to drugs or avoidable diseases. The people for which success is out of reach do not browse HN.

Right, but this is about teenagers, not people who browse HN. Not everyone can be a software developer or startup founder. Someone has to build and maintain all these buildings, roads, and farms.

I love that you think there aren't teenagers on HN.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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This person wrote a whole paper whining about college students standing up for themselves, then testified that social media is a leading cause of this mental health crisis based on nothing but children self-reporting it to be the case, and concludes that we should fix it by passing stronger data collection protection for teenagers.

This is incoherent.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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My family is kinda addicted, so addicted, we ended up not talking anymore because someone wanted a perfect shot off the eifel tower and it wasn't goid enough, even worse when there has to be made pictures of food and whatever.

> pictures of food and whatever

I never understood the food photos. Do I just not love food enough? Do people really enjoy seeing photos of their friends’ meals?

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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post #10

Is it social media? Or is it also the knowledge that they effectively have no future. Rent is going up and mortgage rates are going up faster. A shrinking portion of young adults can now afford housing. The economy is becoming so disfunctional there's almost no reason to bother participating. When children end up in that position their family will turn on them and they have nothing materially or socially.

Yes, rent is expensive, but it’s more than possible to make your way in today’s world provided you don’t fall behind due to drugs or avoidable diseases. The people for which success is out of reach do not browse HN.

The people for which success is out of reach do not browse HN.

It depends how you define "success" of course, but by my criteria of "living with financial independence, real happiness, and the ability to choose what impact you have on the world" very few HN readers will ever be successful. We trade our happiness and satisfaction that comes from making a real impact on the world for a pile of cash to make tech people don't care about.

Re: Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]

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Man. Those charts are dire. I'm not entirely sure how much social media is to blame, but it certainly can't be helping. It's certainly pretty telling that most people when asked seem to innately know that social media is bad for them. However, I find the proposal here kinda lame: - Mandate academic access and fund research - Ban young children from social media or create a "suitable environment for them" We all basic…

>And banning teens from doing something popular... I'm not even sure how seriously to take this suggestion.

This is such a strange thing to me. I understand that kids want to fit in, but really are parents supposed to always make sure they fit in even when trends are actively harmful? Kids haven't always even had so many peers-- 300 years ago you'd spend most of your time with relatives much older than you learning life skills. Was that really so terrible for them? If kids must fit in, then parents are basically screwed because many children and adults overuse social media. I just find it so strange that limiting kids activities is just seen as not worth even trying.

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