It seems to me that the main reason for unpopularity, in addition to the lack of advertising, is monetization.
How can I recoup my production of content that can be expensive? It seems to me that a competent symbiosis of fediverse and cryptocurrency is the real web3.
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Re: Fediverse
#32Which are the platforms that let you own your data cryptographically and let you move your account around seamlessly for yourself and your followers? Basically the network should be in the data and the servers should be replaceable. I think those are very obvious bottlenecks that affect most of these alternative networks. On the other side, censorship is also very important, nobody wants to have to dwell into spam an…
I think this was the premise of the original World Wide Web (minus the cryptographic part) before everything was centralised. Essentially people would have their own personal web pages and readers subscribe via RSS.
Re: Fediverse
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'm not into crypto, but it's also accepted in that community that you must safeguard your keys. Of course it is accepted , but so it is with passwords. And people are terrible enough with passwords, yet here you are suggesting that they use something that can't even be (easily) memorized, can't be invalidated, and has to be stored reliably yet secretly, as "the" identifier. You're putting too much trust into your…
You could still have server-owned accounts with that setup. It just wouldn't be the only option.
You could still have public-key-identified accounts with ActivityPub, too. ActivityPub does, in fact, use public-key cryptography for authentication, and each actor must have a key pair. It's just that it's not its identity — the identifier is a URL where the actor JSON object can be found.
Re: Fediverse
#34A Twitter replacement shouldn't be federated. It should be fully P2P. Federated platforms can still be censored and walled off. Not all Mastodon instances are peers, and your data isn't portable. It still has most of the same pitfalls as the platforms we complain about today. P2P is naturally efficient. The best ideas will gain traction within their memetic networks, and you can branch out and explore anything and re…
No, we don't need to do P2P, we just need to separate the identity from the application server, like HTTP and DNS.
If I own my identity, I can use any service provider and I can attest data ownership at any time.
Re: Fediverse
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
What you describe is essentially Tim Berners-Lee's vision for Solid: https://solidproject.org/ The idea is that every individual person has a container for their own data, and then platforms interact with that data using methods built on the Semantic Web. I frankly don't think it has a hope in hell of succeeding, but I love the concept!
I haven't dived into the specs, but how does solid solve bad actors getting access to your pod? Usually today your data is fragmented across platforms (so damage is reduced) which have centralized authorities who can step in and fix bad actor issues.
Honestly, I'm gonna be super lazy and just quote the front page of the site:
> Anyone or anything that accesses data in a Solid Pod uses a unique ID, authenticated by a decentralized extension of OpenID Connect. Solid's access control system uses these IDs to determine whether a person or application has access to a resource in a Pod.
Of course, as a data owner, you could accidentally grant a bad actor access to your data, but presumably you can also revoke that access as well.
Re: Fediverse
#36General purpose social media will be considered the greatest mistake of the early 21st century. Go back to topic-oriented discussion boards.
When you have no common topic around which to organize, then people have to search each other's personalities for commonality. And in doing so, they stratify along political lines. This isn't enough, so then they micro-stratify into various, rabid subgroups within those political wings.
But when you have the only message board dedicated to an obscure brand of motorcycle from the 1940s (or whatever, IDK), then you're stuck with those people. You're stuck with either having to learn to get along or lose out on your favorite thing.
Go back to topic-oriented message boards. You don't need identity continuity between all the message boards you are membered in. That serves the corporate surveillance state more than it serves you. You don't need people on Board A to see what you're doing on Board B. If it's important and relevant, you can tell them. You dn't need to be friended with all your aunts and cousins and ex boyfriends. That shit is weird, family is for seeing at Thanksgiving to remember why you hate them and then go back to being happy for the rest of the year.
Go back to topic-oriented message boards.
Re: Fediverse
#37General purpose social media will be considered the greatest mistake of the early 21st century. Go back to topic-oriented discussion boards. When you have no common topic around which to organize, then people have to search each other's personalities for commonality. And in doing so, they stratify along political lines. This isn't enough, so then they micro-stratify into various, rabid subgroups within those politica…
> Go back to topic-oriented message boards.
This is essentially what Mastodon instances are. As a bonus, they can interact if they want it.
Re: Fediverse
#38Is having both a normal social media account & a federated version okay ? I've seen a lot of people delete their Twitter and then hop on Mastodon because they're worried about Musk. Whether their concern about Musk is valid is another question. How do people see his acquisition of Twitter as a bad thing? If anything he will try to improve it no?
If these people are fleeing Twitter because they're terrified about a platform where everyone they don't like isn't banned, just wait until they realize there's no way to ban someone from the fediverse
Re: Fediverse
#39Wither is #nostr [1]?
Re: Fediverse
#40the most federated thing - indie web - is not mention there, unfortunately. it'd be great to have a link to some list of indieweb websites.