This is why I only drink hamster milk.
Milk alternatives produce up to 4.5x less greenhouse gas emissions as milk
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#32Milk alternatives don't have any benefits in children. Milk drinking in children is thought to induce growth. You can't overdo it though as it interferes with iron absorption.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-63647-8 see the references
height difference found:
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/106/2/597/4557638
may be related to IGF-1:
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#33Questions that come to mind: 1. What percentage of land use for dairy cows is arable? 2. What percentage of water consumed by dairy cows is recycled (eg from rain water), how does that compare to something like almonds? 3. What percentage of greenhouse gas emissions are added to the environment over already existing in the environment and just being moved?
If it’s not arable then the cow’s food has to come from arable land somewhere else. You can’t just put a cow on a rock and expect it to produce milk.
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#34Questions that come to mind: 1. What percentage of land use for dairy cows is arable? 2. What percentage of water consumed by dairy cows is recycled (eg from rain water), how does that compare to something like almonds? 3. What percentage of greenhouse gas emissions are added to the environment over already existing in the environment and just being moved?
Cows emit a lot of methane, and are in fact the single largest source of agricultural GHG emissions globally. As I understand it, there's a fair bit of research going into how to reduce emissions from cows, but it would also be good to reduce the number of cows if possible.
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#35Cow farts are just replacing Bison farts. Nobody accounts tor that in their doom charts.
Has anyone checked the cave-paintings for aurochs farts?
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#36After ridding the world of fossil fuels and plastics, next up on the agenda is industrial-scale animal husbandry.
Barely scratched the surface on the first two tbh, but it makes complete sense to do this.
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#37And yet coffee shops that claim to be organic, eco conscious and fair trade still penalize you for opting for a milk alternative (by charging extra, like up to $1).
As a badly lactose intolerant person, I get that oatmilk is 2x the cost. But please, you are putting in 15 cents of oatmilk, and charging 0.75 to 1.00 extra for it. A small cup of black coffee with oatmilk for $3.50. Please.
The markup makes sense for lattes -- 12 ounces of whole milk may be $.36 at retail milk prices, but 12oz of oat milk is closer to $1.50 (see my other comment for the price comparison).
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#38Questions that come to mind: 1. What percentage of land use for dairy cows is arable? 2. What percentage of water consumed by dairy cows is recycled (eg from rain water), how does that compare to something like almonds? 3. What percentage of greenhouse gas emissions are added to the environment over already existing in the environment and just being moved?
It’s not just about land use for cows directly, but also for their feed. Industrial dairy farms have way more cows than just the land can support.
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#39Questions that come to mind: 1. What percentage of land use for dairy cows is arable? 2. What percentage of water consumed by dairy cows is recycled (eg from rain water), how does that compare to something like almonds? 3. What percentage of greenhouse gas emissions are added to the environment over already existing in the environment and just being moved?
Not if this is related, but WaPo published a big story on how American beef consumption is destroying the Amazon today:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2022/amazon...
This is more about beef than milk, but the situation is likely very similar.
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#40Oat milk tastes pretty good and from the charts it’s a good balance between land and water use and emissions given. I keep a smaller carton of milk next to a similar sized oat milk one these days. My only concern is if some studies will come out in a few years showing oat milk health effects similar to what is being discovered about soy. I don’t have all knowledge on this, but apparently soy can mess with hormones. I…
The soy thing is if you drink gallons a day for years. I'm not aware of any long term studies that found anything.