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Spacedrive – a cross-platform file explorer, powered by a distributed filesystem

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Re: Spacedrive – a cross-platform file explorer, powered by a distributed filesystem

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Post by monocasa »

anderspitman wrote: post #25
qbasic_forever wrote: post #24

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9p? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9P_(protocol) I believe most VMs use 9p as a low level protocol for syncing filesystems between host and VM or container.

9p won't work for web apps. Personally I think we just need a small layer on top of standard HTTP for most use cases. It's really not a very hard technical problem, we just need to agree on a protocol. But it's a chicken-egg situation. App developers aren't going to develop against a protocol that no one uses, and no one's going to use a protocol that doesn't have any apps.

Plan 9 (well, 9 front at least) natively supports 9p over websockets.

https://p9f.org/magic/man2html/8/websocket

Re: Spacedrive – a cross-platform file explorer, powered by a distributed filesystem

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Post by AndrewUnmuted »

indiv0 wrote: post #8
AndrewUnmuted wrote: post #7

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Are you boycotting operating rooms while you’re at it? I’ve never seen such an overreaction to such a non-issue before. How do people get to a state where they can unironically say things like this with a straight face?

Been in an OR since after you were born, OP? The OR physicians are in literal spacesuits these days.

Re: Spacedrive – a cross-platform file explorer, powered by a distributed filesystem

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Post by AndrewUnmuted »

lazyier wrote: post #10
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I don't get it. You don't like that he is wearing a mask in the github profile? Are you serious? Am I missing something?

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Re: Spacedrive – a cross-platform file explorer, powered by a distributed filesystem

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Post by AndrewUnmuted »

Melatonic wrote: post #26
Fauntleroy wrote: post #12

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Can you explain how simply having a mask on in his profile picture is "propaganda"? Furthermore, how is having a github profile picture "anti-scientific"?

Hilariously thats not even the owner of the Github. Just a contributor !

Yeah it's super-funny! I'm having a ball right now!

Re: Spacedrive – a cross-platform file explorer, powered by a distributed filesystem

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Post by api »

blooalien wrote: post #19
api wrote: post #4

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All economic incentives for the past 20+ years have been away from "personal" computing because people flatly refuse to pay for software but for whatever reason have less aversion to paying for services. I have to repeat just to emphasize how irrational this is. People will refuse to pay $50 once for software but will happily pay $20-$50 per month for a service that offers less performance, no privacy, worse security…

I was just about to upvote you until I got to the part where you start trashing FOSS users as unwilling to pay for software. This is a long-time lie of the Linux-hating Win-Troll crowd, since at least the Steve Ballmer days of Microsoft, and patently bullshit. I've personally paid for more (FOSS and closed-source) software since switching to using mostly FOSS software than during my many years as a proprietary softwa…

I've been a FOSS user since 1993 and am totally willing to pay for software.

Here's the problem: any license that attempt to require businesses to pay for software or that restricts for-profit SaaSification tends to be rejected by the FOSS community. The AGPL is the closest we have and it doesn't really do that even it gets a lot of hate in FOSS circles.

Without such concerns being addressed in the license it's impossible to put any kind of direct simple business model behind open source software. This means that almost all businesses opt for a SaaS model where it's easy to charge or find other roundabout ways to "charge" such as harvesting user data.

TL;DR: the software market has structurally organized itself so as to almost rule out business models other than SaaS and surveillance.

Re: Spacedrive – a cross-platform file explorer, powered by a distributed filesystem

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Post by Scramblejams »

Filligree wrote: post #20
spogbiper wrote: post #9

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> People will also pay $10+ dollars for a single cup of coffee at Starbucks every day. But god forbid they pay that much once for an app they use every day. This is why I no longer write mobile apps

If it's any comfort, I made that calculation and decided not to sweat it, but purchase any app costing less than ~10 with about as much thought as I'd give to buying coffee.

I feel similarly, if I see a mobile app that I think might solve my problem and it's low single digits, it's practically an impulse buy. If it doesn't work out, I don't feel used.

I've also happily spent $15 on an iOS app before because it was really good at what it did.

It made me wonder if there's a really great market out there for an incredibly well done niche mobile app you could charge $99 or more for. A whole lot of customer service problems disappear when you preemptively disqualify the uncommitted...

Re: Spacedrive – a cross-platform file explorer, powered by a distributed filesystem

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Post by LeoPanthera »

Previous thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31170815

My comment from the previous thread: I'm not sure if it actually does work this way, but this would be amazing if I could install a small daemon on my NAS/fileserver to do the scanning and indexing, which the graphical client could then pull the results of.

Re: Spacedrive – a cross-platform file explorer, powered by a distributed filesystem

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Post by vineyardmike »

anderspitman wrote: post #23

I love all the cool backend remote storage projects we have, but what I really want is a simple, well-specified app protocol for filesystem operations. WebDAV is too crufty. I'm bullish on Solid but I think there's room for something much simpler. I've done a bit of work[0] in this space but keep getting distracted with other parts of the self-hosted storage stack. [0]: https://gemdrive.io/

> what I really want is a simple, well-specified app protocol for filesystem operations.

Genuine question, what’s wrong with existing Operating System FS + FUSE with any remote protocol? Eg there exists S3fuse if you want object/bucket storage, sshfs for using ssh to a host, and the fuse api is easy enough to port to custom backends (in memory, db, etc).

Don’t want to be the guy saying “who needs Dropbox we have sftp” but you’re asking for a technical spec and protocol… and one exists? I haven’t worked too much in this space so I don’t know what tasks are hard to do, but it seems like leaning on existing file system tools/api at the app level makes sense? What’s missing, does “over the network” need to be a primary consideration for these uses?

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